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[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 135 points 4 weeks ago (42 children)

I don't think Americans quite appreciate how few guns one encounters when you are practically anywhere else in the world.

The only guns I see in my life are in possession of trained professionals. And even then it's a lot if I see one per three months.

I've never been in a situation in my life where I've regretted not having a gun. Rather the opposite, I've been struggling with depression at a point in my life where access to a gun might have provided an easy way out.

And generally I like guns. As in I've been interested in military history for my entire life. When I'm the us I've been to a shooting range and thought that was cool (but also terrifying).

[–] grue@lemmy.world 81 points 4 weeks ago (20 children)

I don't think non-Americans appreciate how few guns one encounters in America if one isn't a gun nut or gun-nut-adjacent. It is not that everybody owns a gun. It's that the relative few people who own dozens or hundreds of guns skew the average.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 54 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (15 children)

I'll disagree. I've been mugged. There have also been two times I've visited friends that have been casually cleaning guns when I arrived. A person I do martial arts with has a conceal carry and has come in with it a few times. Every cop has at least one. There's a gun store that's on my commute route. I was hiking and crossed paths with an elderly couple on horseback and they were packing. I've known two people that have killed themselves with a gun. I drilled with fake guns in NJROTC in high school and there were opportunities to train and compete in marksmanship with actual guns. I shot BB guns in Cub Scouts (those two are just examples as to how young gun culture becomes part of an American's life). When I was growing up, Walmart sold guns and ammo. They still do in certain places.

I have to factor into my interactions with people if they have a gun. Like I put up with a lot more shitty behavior on the road because I live in a state with a high incidence of guns being involved with road rage incidents. If I get into an argument with my neighbor, is that conservative asshole going to do something stupid if things escalate (yeah yeah, don't escalate, just an example). All the POCs I know have been taught how to behave during a traffic stop to reduce their chances of getting shot by a cop.

I've never even held or shot a real gun, but guns permeate my life.

Edit: Christ, the people who are advocating fear of gun violence being good for society is how idiotic of a gun culture there is in the US.

[–] FearMeAndDecay@literature.cafe 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It really depends on where you live in the USA. Where I live theres definitely people with guns but it’s unusual to see someone actually carrying one outside their home. Now my cousins live like 1-2 hours away (still in the same state) and it’s super common there for people to carry their gun on them at all times for some fucking reason. So my cousins are way more used to seeing guns than my siblings and I are

It sounds like it's such a part of our culture that you're missing the point: you cannot opt out of gun culture in America. Anywhere.

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[–] Capable_Coping@piefed.social 14 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

All of our street cops are also carrying guns around, which (if I'm not mistaken) is not the case everywhere.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Years ago, the UK government announced they were going to arm the general police. The people with the biggest issue with it was the police union!

The UK has a police by consent basis. The heaviest firepower they carry is a tazer. If there is a risk of guns being involved, the normal police pull back and call in the armed response officers. When they do, however, they call the whole cavalry!

End result, criminals don't feel they MUST have a gun to defend from the police. Conversely, going in armed will bring the whole, focused weight of the armed response down on you. (As in multiple helicopter level searches) Most don't carry guns, and so the status quo keeps everyone safe.

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 14 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Are we or are we not counting the fair few you don't see because they're concealed on the people around you?

And yes the stats are absolutely skewed by gun nuts with big collections it's still true that 40% or more of American households have a gun...

[–] nooch@lemmy.vg 11 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

There's fucking ammo at wallmart. You can't even comprehend how mindboggling that is in most countries

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[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 9 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

But I'd feel uneasy not knowing which of them is the nutty one.

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[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 14 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

I lived in different countries. Many are friendly with actual neighborly caring folks. Like leave your car unlocked safe. Like if you lost your phone outside, someone will kindly put it somewhere safe. Countries with good safety nets and a government that wants to help people.

Here in America, I'm not afraid of the pickpockets or petty theft. The biggest threats to my family's life are by police officers or ICE, all because of the color of their skin.

I've been to protests where everyone was peaceful and it was violently dissolved by police. Where I've been to protests which had hired security guards packing guns protecting protesters, and the cops were on their best behavior.

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[–] BillyClark@piefed.social 107 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Americans _are_desensitized to guns, but the Dr. Watson from the Sherlock Holmes stories was a military veteran who often carried his army revolver. Anybody with a passing familiarity with the character of Dr. Watson could think, "I guess he keeps his gun in his desk."

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 40 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

The majority of the UK had guns readily available up until the great war. Then the population was disarmed, the homicide rate was lower than it is today in the UK... Sherlock was written for those times, and guns were not unusual.

[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

This particular series takes the characters and puts them in present day London, what was normal in the 19th century doesn't apply for the character in the example

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

This post says "the first episode of sherlock where john watson opens up his drawer and you see a gun".

So, it's talking about the Sherlock mini-series from 2010 which was set in modern times. I don't think that in modern times a military veteran is allowed to keep a gun in a drawer.

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[–] 5765313496@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

To be fair, part of my desensitization is from the (100% accurate documentary) Hot Fuzz. Maybe they were just establishing that Watson is a farmer... or a farmer's mum.

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[–] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

anybody have examples of the opposite? American hollywood movies/shows that nonchalantly presented something common in the USA, but was jarring when you watched it?

[–] pleaseletmein@lemmy.zip 58 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

A teacher needing to sell meth to pay for his cancer treatment.

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[–] knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Breaking indoor walls so damn easily, thought it was a Hollywood thing like exploding cars, endless mags etc. Took me a while to get that such thin walls are just common in the US

[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

They make them out of literal cardboard now because drywall is too expensive. I wish I was joking. Look up cyfy on YouTube, he's a home inspector in Arizona and some of the million dollar+ homes he inspects are actual temu quality shitholes from big name builders.

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[–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago (21 children)

Pledge of allegiance in school is quite unusual.

And how you have flags on everything, including outside people's houses.

"Central air" is a term I only learned the meaning of recently, but American TV assumes everyone knows what it is. Which is fair, if you all have it. Same with the hand blenders you have in your kitchen sinks.

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[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Flags in front of random houses. It's technically illegal in my country (India), although no one will bother you over it.

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[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

I always thought that when heros fought and threw things and people though walls it was an extra strong emphasis of how strong they were. As if they were close to supermen because of their rage/determination/skills. I recently realise that american home have super fragile wall. Like a normal human can punch it through if they want to. So movie makers didn't meant what I thought.

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[–] paranoia@feddit.dk 9 points 3 weeks ago

every american police movie

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[–] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I do a fair amount of solo bikepacking in the rural Midwest, and have gotten into enough weird altercations that I now ride and camp with a concealed pistol.

A few years ago, I would have called anyone doing this exact same thing a psychopath. I give myself endless amounts of shit for having a "bicycle gun" and would be fucking mortified if anyone I casually ride with found out, but I'm also intensely aware of how batshit crazy and divorced from reality the average redneck is.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 24 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I would have just assumed it was from his time in the army, since, you know... Watson was in the army. And also the fact he is a detective's assistant that got into scraps with bad guys frequently.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I mean it is, but you're very much not allowed to keep your gun after you leave. (I'm assuming OP is referring to "Sherlock", the modern-day BBC adaptation)

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[–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

British show with a desk gun only reminds me of The IT Crowd

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

I wonder if it's loaded.

[–] YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

When I was in Ireland last summer I accidentally took too much food and didn't want to piss off our hosts (I got nauseated out of where) so I took it back to the room and put it in the drawer in the bedside table and was so worried they would see it while cleaning and think I was stealing by taking too much at breakfast. My companion told me it was okay and that I could explain it away by saying I'm an American and having a bedside sandwich is our culture.

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[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm a school bus driver and one of my coworkers is constantly talking about how worried he is that somebody is going to shoot up a school bus instead of a school (I'm not exactly worried about this myself, but a full bus would make a pretty easy target). His proposed solution is that drivers be armed -- he wants to carry his beloved AR-15 with him on the bus. I foolishly engaged him and questioned where he would even mount the fucking thing (it's an assault rifle for those who don't know, the civilian version of the M-16) so he could reach it quickly but the kids couldn't get their hands on it. I keep encouraging him to suggest this to the district superintendent so he gets his ass fired but I don't know if that would actually happen. Our schools already have ex-cops for security and we do fucking active shooter drills with elementary school kids.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Unfortunately, he's the type who watches action movies because he wants to imagine himself as the hero,

But not saving lives.

He wants to kill, but be considered righteous for it

It's a sickness, not unique to 'Murica, but definitely more pronounced there

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[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

When I saw the desk gun, my only thought was that it was going to be featured eventually due to Chekhov's Gun.

[–] noodles@slrpnk.net 12 points 3 weeks ago

Regardless of the actual amount of guns one sees around and in desks, one thing I think is particularly relevant is how many guns are in American media. I've never personally seen a desk gun in the USA, though I do see a fair amount of holstered guns in public, but so many TV shows, movies, and even advertisements have random guns popping up even if it's not thematically relevant or appropriate.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Desk guns are for desk pops. When was the last time you did a desk pop?

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