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It's my choice but Arch and its derivatives look like the trend like CachyOS which is #1 right now on visits on distrowatch. Also I've heard Google use Debian as gLinux and I feel many other giants also use it and sponsor it and I'm not comfortable choosing it as my distro. Can the sponsors togethwr with students or any other interested use it for their PCs, either coding or ordinary use? It strictly promotes free but worried about giants and sponsors.

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[–] limelight79@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

Debian on my server, my desktop, my laptop, and my gaming computer. That last one might be the most questionable choice, but so far it has been working well.

Just works. No issues.

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago

I've heard Google use Debian as gLinux and I feel many other giants also use it and sponsor it and I'm not comfortable choosing it as my distro.

They use Debian for the same reason all heavy industry is built using steel and not whatever flashy new composite is in the news today. It works. Debian is slightly harder than Ubuntu / Mint to install and set-up, but probably the easiest to maintain since it is extremely stable and forgiving. It will also work on just about any hardware.

And don't worry about the sponsorships. Debian is run by the community; the sponsers don't get to decide anything.

[–] erebion@news.erebion.eu 4 points 17 hours ago

I use Debian. It just works and is reliable.

[–] gergolippai@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

debian on servers all the way, since 2000

[–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 3 points 20 hours ago

I’m sure Debian would implode if any big corp started to make “hostile” changes to it. It was by some considered controversial to include non free firmware by default - that should tell you a little about how much people care about Debian, as including the non free by default is against the core of opensource.

i have debian on my server; if i could go back and use it on my desktop and laptop instead of mint i would too (nothing against mint just love debian)

[–] atk007@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I use PikaOS, which is based on Debian. It's right up there with CachyOS is performance and gaming, and have been using it for over a year with its hyprland variant.

[–] Kynn@jlai.lu 1 points 1 day ago

I personally use DietPI on my headless servers, which is a derivative of debian, and PikaOS on my personal computer, which is the bazzite equivalent of debian. It’s great really :). At this stage, i've been so used to debian derivatives that I simply don’t want to use time to learn another distro's specific ways. I've tried mandrake and rpm years ago, but debian simply was the golden standard I used at school and on PI.

[–] bizdelnick@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Arch and its derivatives look like the trend

It's because nobody writes "I use Debian BTW".

[–] syaochan@feddit.it 20 points 2 days ago

I'll start now: I use Debian BTW

[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

I use Debian BTW.

I don't really run around yelling about it. I mostly use derivatives like Mint, Raspberry PI OS (such a dumb rebranding) and armbian , but stock Debian goes on some servers since it just works. I'm not tuning anything nor looking for special packages. Unless there's a driver issue (old Debian problem), it'll be boring and work.

Use what tools work for you.

Huge thank you to the Debian devs. You've done me good tools for decades now.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I do use it, but you are quite right I don't tend to mention it unless asked.

[–] bigbangdangler@reddthat.com 12 points 1 day ago

Arch people tend to want people to know they use Arch (btw). You'll also find a lot of posts about getting Arch working.

Debian people tend to be too busy doing other things on their computers besides getting them working, so you'll hear about it less.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I am a Debian man. All my systems are Debian or Debian based. It just works!

[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 days ago

Same here. I got installation media for Potato from a friend of a friend and I've been a happy user ever since. There's been other stuff on my hardware too, and even now there's (at least) LMDE and Bazzite around, but when I need a system which just works it's Debian.

[–] CarlLandry357@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Good to know. It's my distro choice.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

My wife uses Debian and is very happy with it.
She uses it both for gaming and studio recordings with Ardour.

Debian has for decades been among the most respected distros in the Linux world, and it still is.
If you want something solid, Debian should be your first choice.

Edit PS:
She also uses it for programming occasionally. Debian is an excellent platform for "coding" with its huge repositories.
But most Linux distros are very good for programming, and will have all the common necessary tools readily available.

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

She uses it both for gaming and studio recordings with Ardour.

How is the gaming experience on Debian nowadays? Last time I tried it (several years ago now), it was kind of a nightmare jumping through all of the various hoops required to get it to pay nicely with an Nvidia GPU.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Nvidia drivers do not always play nice with the kernel, and can disrupt high end audio use. If you use Linux you should use an AMD or Intel GPU.
My wife used to use Nvidia, because it worked better for some games, but she finally ended up getting pissed with the proprietary Nvidia drivers, and switched to AMD about a year ago. And now all her games that used to work with Nvidia drivers also work with AMD.
AFAIK Debian support Nvidia proprietary drivers reasonably well today, but for older Nvidia cards you may be out of luck, they can be a real shitshow to get to work if you want to use the proprietary driver.
Best option is to just stop using Nvidia on Linux!

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[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 7 points 1 day ago

Pretty much anything I do is Debian, ive said it quite a bit before so this may be a repeat of previous comments, but...

Its solid, stable, easy to deploy with incredible flexibility and just about everything out there supports it. I do have a few boxes with arch, and they are also just fine - I wouldn't use it as a server, personally, but its perfectly good for a "very current" approach to desktops/laptops.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I have Arch on my desktop, and all my laptops, but all of my servers run Debian. If you want your machine to have all the latest stuff, then Arch is great. If you want it to Just Work™ all the time without any concerns, Debian is great.

[–] North@lemmy.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Or NixOS if you want both Debian's stability and Arch's rolling releases.

[–] nfms@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

I have Arch on my desktop with the CachyOS repo enabled and the CachyOS kernel and also have all my servers running Debian.
It just works for me.

[–] UntouchedWagons@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

I use Debian on all my servers and virtual machines due to its slow update cadence and leanness.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 10 points 2 days ago

It sounds like you're concerned with EEE: embrace, extend, extinguish. While that might be a problem for centralized pieces of software, who are dependent upon revenue streams, core distros like Debian, Arch, Fedora, and openSUSE are developed and maintained by the community (and sponsors).

If sponsors all pulled their funding tomorrow, the projects would not suddenly cease to get updates. By extension, sponsors don't get special seats at the table just for being a sponsor; it's not some corporate buy-in where they get 5% voting share for donating $1M to fund hobbyists to work on the code full-time. Likewise, they don't have special push access to inject "features" (read: enshittification) into the codebase that will eventually hamstring the code. Somebody would notice a bad pull-request and say something.

And even if they miraculously did, the codebase is open source. There are enough motivated people in the world who would fork the code into something free and open again. It's one of the biggest strengths of FOSS.

Sponsorships help the development happen faster, but sponsors are not the drivers of Linux—we are. Choose the distro you like, and enjoy!

Then why sponsor?As a sidenote, you might be asking why sponsors would give money to these projects:

  • Tax write-off. Many projects are governed by nonprofits, and giving to them gives businesses a tax break.
  • They get a better codebase for their own use. If they invest money, they'll also be getting volunteer labor for free, so it's win-win.
[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

I mean I run one arch machine but have 10 ish Debian machines.

[–] kurcatovium@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago

We have all the servers at work using Debian. It's rock solid. I use Tumbleweed on home PC and CachyOS on laptop as I do some gaming and having fresh packages might help this. Both works for me.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yep millions of us.

Most commonly due to stability.

Long term. It took effort and understanding to add newer versions of programs to it. Those of us with these skills managed. But it put off a lot of we want/need the latest without effort folks.

Over the last 10 years. Flat pack or appimage have come far enough. It is rare if ever I need to build any software I don't want to.

[–] CarlLandry357@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah stability is also the reason for Debian. Arch has more maintenance unlike Debian's set it and forget it. Like Windows right? Fedora looks heavy to me though. I wanna try others too thats not win11.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Debian has some maintenance. But if you think windows doesn't. Your already having issue.

But Debian is one of the most documented distros. If your having an issue. Odd are multiple people have documented how to resolve it.

Linux as a whole. Requires you to have a basic understanding, of what and why you are doing things. If not you will have a bad time.

Debians biggest issue. Is the default 0 non free firmware and software. This means some drivers etc are not going to install automatically.

So for any new install. Unless you have an entirely open system. You will need to manually edit the source files. And install extra packages.

If you have Nvidia this is a big issue. Bit well documented.

The big issue is when a new version comes out. If things change dramatically. Their is a delay in that clear documentation. This continues through their testing to stable releases.

But they are excellent at ensuring security releases continue well beyond the upgrade. Years usually.

[–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Debians biggest issue. Is the default 0 non free firmware and software. This means some drivers etc are not going to install automatically.

I think Debian 12 changed this and now include non free (firmware?) as default. That’s when I installed it with no issues.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 1 points 20 hours ago

You may be correct. I'm on 12 but it's been a while since I installed.

[–] vapor_body@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think Fedora is taking off because of enterprise use & Bazzite? Or something else that uses their image thing

[–] traceur402@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago

Debian is perfect in particular for work. Stable, free, capable. Hardly more to want. And it's been almost the only stable bedrock in my tech career of over two decades. I've probably made over a million USD with it, while everything else eventually gets taken by a corporation and becomes folly to build on. Free software forever

[–] Tundra@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Only dislike I have with Debian is upgrading it was always a headache, but I think rolling release just suits me more.

Its a great distro

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

ymmv, but debian has always been near perfect through upgrades for me: even a recent buster -> bullseye -> bookworm -> trixie went smoothly.

issues usually arise from not maintaining a clean debian stable install (e.g. you were using backports or lots of 3rd party repos). if those are cleaned up prior things still usually go well.

not saying you didn't have issues, but in my experience with with lots and lots of debian systems, upgrades have been 99.9% cakewalk.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

the same goes for any distribution not just debian. installers and upgrade processes cannot possibly account for the infinite number of unexpected things they could encounter. the more you go 'off book' with third-party repositories, backports, manual configuration changes, manual package installs and what-not, the greater the chance for having 'issues' with version upgrades.

[–] vapor_body@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

I currently use LMDE, yes. I just have spent too much time on the programs I already installed to move on from it I guess. Nothing's come up. It Just Works™ and the wife loves it

Heard some stuff about them introducing bugs via the downstream patching system though? All that package management stuff is a bit over my head.

[–] Peffse@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I tried Debian when I built my PC back in 2025. It didn't have any support for the bleeding edge parts I chose.

I then tried LMDE as a compromise. It also didn't have the support I needed.

It's a little too stable for my use-case... but runs well on my older laptops.

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[–] Luca@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 days ago

Debian has been our choice for web hosting for the last fifteen years, and my choice of desktop PC for the last three without issue.

Most games run out of the box with proton, if that's your worry, and you can use heroic to get proton going with games from epic and gog with reasonable ease. Wine in general, for me, has had better luck running old legacy windows programs better than windows can manage these days.

I wouldn't take Debian's stability and reliability over anything; I can do everything I need with it.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

DistroWatch isn't an OS ranking system, its a "How many hits" or " "how many recent users claimed to use" a certain system.

This has no real correlation to actual deployed OS in the world.

It's more of a buzz ranking; like a lot of people went to Debian recently because of Canonical being a less disrable OS builder. So Distrowatch got a ton of Debian searches at the beginning of that switch, but probably way less now.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

Rolling releases work well until they don't. Let the voluntary beta testers be as smug as they want to be. They are part of the Linux ecosystem who test and report bugs for fixing before they hit other distros.

They might have some performance benefits and if problems arise, there are ways to snapshot back to a working state, recover and many will be knowledgeable to fix some bugs themselves, but ask yourselves, do you actually want to go through all that?

Debian is perfectly fine for what it does.

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

it seems to be the most hassle free rock solid distro among the popular ones. i prefer slackware on my own systems though, but i'd install debian if someone asks me to install a linux distro on their system.

[–] chanteoma@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In my understanding, Linux distros have different flavors and play in different arenas. For instance, there are "community-driven" distros like Debian, Arch, or Gentoo, and there are other "industry-driven" distros that are developed by companies, such as Fedora or Ubuntu. Another aspect to consider is the support for new software. With Arch and similar distros you get support for bleeding edge software, whereas Debian supports more stable releases and officially supports older version of softwares that have been tested and reliable. Then there are a myriad of other things to consider, including the Desktop Environment, using X11 or Wayland, SystemD, support for graphics cards, etc...

I wouldn't care much about who uses it, but about who takes the decisions. In this case, Debian has a very open system that you can check on their website. I think that corporate interests such as what Google or Microsoft want don't have a space in the Debian decision-making processes. I tend to trust more the community-driven distros and stable releases, so Debian does the trick for me.

[–] CarlLandry357@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

You described the basics, anyway, some universities use it as their OS, no giant techs involved.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

rought 15-ish years ago stack exchange did a survey of distros used in production and debian was the king back then; it would be interesting to see what it's like now-a-days.

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