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[–] Draegur@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 hours ago

vaseline sounds like it should have been spelled vasilene but the i and the e got switched as a funny prank and it stuck.

[–] gnufuu@infosec.pub 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I've always found it funny how single vowels are pronounced in English, e.g. when you say the alphabet.

Any other language:

A, E, I, O, U

English:

Ayy, I (as in "mirror"), Eye, Ouu, Yuu

[–] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Letters in English are pronounced differently from their phonetics, oddly enough

[–] glibg10b@lemmy.zip 2 points 12 hours ago

It's not just English. Afrikaans: Ah, 'ere, ee, <the diphthong in "whip">, <not present in any English words>

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

This is why I had a problem with "phonics" as a teaching philosophy.

You have "ph" sometimes teaming up to cosplay as a freaking "f". And that's one of the easier rules. It's all broken from the get-go.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 11 hours ago

My favourite word is pterodactyl

It's got a silent letter at the beginning, and then a silent o in the middle, and an invisible a, which you pronounce but don't type, and then a silent c, before going back to some sort of sanity for the last three letters. Who decided that's how it should be spelt?

We already had the word Terra so why did they have to go spell this version Ptero

[–] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Use the International Phonetic Alphabet.

/rɛːd/, /riːd/
/ˈlɛd/, /ˈlɛd/

Or make everyone switch to a language that is orthographically transparent, like Finnish, Serbo-Croatian, and Spanish.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 11 hours ago

English has no rules, we should all revel in the chaos rather than having our language be stringently defined.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world -1 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Posts like this are so ignorant because they're based on the false premise that English was made to be the global language, when it's not. It was made as a result of the mixing of Germans, Scandinavians, Celts, and French people on a gloomy isolated island in the corner of Europe for thousands of years. It's a language that was evolved by those people, and thus it contains a lot of their linguistic quirks coming together.

Every single language has quirks like this. For example, I also speak Arabic, and people are always shocked when I tell them that an Arabic speaker from Iraq and an Arab speaker from Morocco cannot understand each other because Arabic dialects are basically different languages. THey're only unified by standard Arabic, which most Arabic speakers don't use in their day to day lives. It's basically a language that's only used to communicate with other Arabs.

English only got to where it is because of a unique situation in history where the language was used by not one, but two global hegemons. Not only that but those hegemons happened to be the most of the powerful in history, and they ruled back to back. That's what spread and cemented English into the global language it is today.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

You didn't address a single thing from the original post.

It was highlighting how English is a very quirky language. You can explain it, obviously there are reasons why, but it doesn't change the factual observation that English is a uniquely inconsistent language.

Most languages have some sort of academic body that dictates the correct usage of the language, and occasionally push for adjustments that resolve these inconsistencies. English does not, it's a crowd sourced effort with the results being what we see today.

Many countries and languages share similar backgrounds to English - invasion by foreign peoples, large migrations, etc - yet they've settled most of their background into a consistent ruleset - there's always exceptions and irregularities, but not to the level of English.

One of the largest sources of inconsistencies was the "Great Vowel Shift", along with the invention of the printing press at roughly the same time, which standardized a spelling that didn't reflect the massive ongoing changes in pronunciation.

This is a fascinating topic, but accusing others of ignorance for pointing out something that is a fact, is in itself ignorance.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world -2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

This is complete nonsense. All languages are organic and evolve naturally. There's no academic body that controls any langauge, that's not how languages work. What exists is institutional bodies that try to break down and explain languages into rules and patterns, they don't actually dictate the direction of the language. English also has such institutions by the way. This idea that English is uniquely inconsistent or uncontrolled is not true. Arabic, for example, is just as quirky, inconsistent, and uncontrolled. That's just human speech.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

You're just elaborating and expanding on a part of what I said, while being an abrasive jerk, and ignoring everything else that didn't suit your argument.

To the point in question, I never said academies invent the future of a language, only that they gatekeep the rules, which can include pushback against popular usage (the french academy is notorious for being very against english neologisms).

There have been cases where the changes are very substantial, like the Portuguese and French changes that happened (coincidentally) in 1990, for example, that push the languages in certain directions.

Take a cup of tea and relax a bit, and try not to argue the voices in your head.


Edit: I missed this point, let me address it:

All languages are organic and evolve naturally.

Have you heard of Esperanto, for example, or the concept of auxiliary languages?

What about artistic or fictional languages, like Tolkien's Elvish or Star Trek's Klingon or Dothraki or High Valerian from Game of Thrones?

None of them are "organic", and as for evolving, it really depends but a language like Esperanto, assuming it is regularly used by a community, is very unlikely to differ from it's textbook definition because it was specifically crafted to avoid the inconsistencies that we're discussing and that arise from evolution.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I still don't understand though why Europe so many languages, a good chunk of it was in the Roman empire so you would have thought that they would all have a single unified language as a result of that but even in the Mediterranean there's different languages.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

I mean all the romance languages descend from Latin. The reason why that language splintered into a bunch of other languages is isolation. When Christianity came to Europe, the empire splintered into a bunch of smaller empires and kingdoms and stayed that way for centuries. That led to a lot local variations that eventually turned into full blown languages.

[–] dismay3915@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

As someone who speaks 3 languages, I can confirm english is a weak ass language.

It's strong point is that daily and normal speech and formal writing or speech are almost the same. Thats not the case with most languages, specially the older and more complex ones.

[–] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I kind of like how it’s ever changing and evolving, I know that sours some people’s pickles but I think it’s neat. I like how it incorporates and is built on so many other languages. I enjoyed reading a short story posted here a while ago that progressively walked backwards in time as a language and it was really neat to me. I’m an idiot though so most other languages probably do this also.

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

American English has never be bashful about filing the serial numbers off a word and then claiming it as our own. It can lead, (lead/lead/led?) to confusion even among us native speakers. At least until we sort it out.

Personally I blame the French, (for no reason other than I can), for all the ills in the English language.

[–] dismay3915@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

That's the indication of a healthy and alive language.

English has the most speakers and is the scientific and professional language of the world currently. So it is the most up to date and alive one currently.

[–] 6244901@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do u happen to speak german? I’m studying it rn and it’s making me very grateful we live in an English speaking world :/

[–] dismay3915@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

While german is hard and weird, but it's not far harder than english.

I used to know german but never used it and lost the muscle.

I speak Persian(Farsi), Arabic and English. I tried to learn Japanese and Chinese (mandarin) for a while but I just gave up.

I'm glad we're not speaking Mandarin as our common language. It's one of the least interesting languages and objectively the hardest languages I've seen. At least Japanese has it's beauties, but I couldn't find them in Mandarin.

[–] 6244901@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

So? Eminem makes all the words in the English language rhyme so balance is restored in the world

[–] banazir@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

English-language spelling reform now.

[–] IMALlama@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

But let's only do it in some English speaking countries and not others! I am joking, but this is one of the reasons why American English has diverged from British English.

Relevant xkcd:

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
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[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

comb bomb tomb tome come

only two of these rhyme.

[–] khanh@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I genuinely read that as ba-se-lin-e

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[–] unitedwithme@lemmy.today 121 points 2 days ago (15 children)

English can certainly be difficult! It can understood through tough thorough thought though throughout the learning process.

[–] Thteven@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If y'all ain't get the gist of it y'ain't thunk it thru enuff.

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[–] TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz 50 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Adultery is not the opposite of infantry; whimsy is not an adjective; you can live together in an apartment; and the Midwest is in the Eastern US.

[–] glitch1985@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (4 children)

"flammable" and "inflammable" mean the same thing

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[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Why can I be overwhelmed or underwhelmed, but not perfectly adequately whelmed?

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[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

'Jam' can mean a fruit preserve, to play music, a stuck door, traffic, to cram something into something else, a tense situation, or to block a radio signal. All spelled and pronounced the same.

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[–] olenkoVD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

the Midwest is in the Eastern US.

That actually makes sense because it's from the point of view of Europe.

[–] clabru@feddit.it 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just as middle east and western Asia are the same region

[–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

As an Asian, "Midwest" always feels off. Only now I realized this is the same shit as "Middle East" (which I forgot to give second thoughts as an adult). Now both terms really sucks to me!

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[–] kamen@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe start with the fact that not all words in use in English are English words.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Or that people in different parts of the world say/spell words differently and we inconsistently applied it:

Kernel and Colonel were the same rank but we took the pronunciation of the first and the spelling of the latter.

[–] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 52 points 2 days ago (4 children)

past tense read and toxic lead vs reading and leading if somebody doesn’t underntand

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[–] Ichiro_kun@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

My brain got fired while reading this. 🗿

[–] AnalogRegression@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

In the ever so pretensious words of Walt Whitman...

"English is the greatest language ever!! It's as great as life itself! Also death!"

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