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“If a state refuses to turn their absentee voter list over to the federal government, will the Postal Service still mail their ballots under this proposal rule?” Sen. Gary Peters (D-Mich.), the committee’s top Democrat, asked Steiner.

“Under our proposed regulation, no,” Steiner replied.

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Florida is like the shining example that blows up their narrative. It has a successful mail in ballot program. And it’s also been under Republican control some 3 decades.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Florida also sucks tRump off, so they're probably first in line to share voter data

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago

Maybe. But that wasn’t my point.

[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 day ago

Earlier this year the Supreme Court just happened to rule that USPS can't be sued for not delivering mail.

A divided Supreme Court sided with the federal government on Tuesday in U.S. Postal Service v. Konan, a dispute over mishandled mail. Writing for a 5-4 majority, Justice Clarence Thomas explained that a law protecting the U.S. Postal Service from lawsuits over lost or miscarried mail bars lawsuits over mail that was intentionally misdelivered.

On Tuesday, the court sided with the government, holding that an intentional failure to deliver the mail falls within the FTCA’s postal exception. The ordinary meanings of both “miscarriage” and “loss” point the court to this conclusion, wrote Thomas in the majority opinion. “Because a ‘miscarriage’ includes any failure of mail to arrive properly, a person experiences a miscarriage of mail when his mail is delivered to his neighbor, held at the post office, or returned to the sender—regardless of why it happened,” he wrote. Similarly, “[w]hen Congress enacted the FTCA, the ‘loss’ of mail ordinarily meant a deprivation of mail, regardless of how the deprivation was brought about.”

[–] santa@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It’s illegal. Postmaster should be removed.

[–] billbasher@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

No more federal taxes paid then. They’re breaking the constitution with corruption

[–] bedifferent@mastodon.social 0 points 17 hours ago

@billbasher @santa I've been seriously wondering about this because after this year, we're going to get hit hard ... f'ing balling room, arc de failure, war ...

[–] hemmes@lemmy.world 68 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Does the constitution say that states must turn over absentee voter data in order to vote?

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, the Constitution does say States run their own elections. Feds can legislate times and dates and some stuff, but they have no legal authority to do this.

This was the condition that allowed the states to federate in the first place. If we were to place as much importance on this as the States did before federation, the breaking of this contract would be returned in kind by no longest submitting to the Federal government's authority or pocket book.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We really need to stop saying shit like this.

The Constitution does not matter. Until conservatives, specifically Trump, are stopped, they are going to be fascists.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That not a good reason to stop citing the constitution. The moment people stop doing that, then it's completely over. It's still beneficial to point it out so that people are genuinely aware. Also, federal judges have been shooting down Trump a lot recently. So yea, it does still matter.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

We need to maintain the stance that the rules still exist and matter. They aren't being enforced, but if we hold on to them we can demand they get enforced in the future

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Exactly this. If there's any chance to right this ship, the constitution has to be part of the core of it. Now that old document definitely needs updated, but saying the constitution doesn't matter throws away all defense for the 1st and most important amendment. It's already been trampled on in some states, hence the comments saying the constitution doesn't matter, but conceding on the point of it mattering means conceding the fight.

[–] Gaja0@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago

It's not protecting us, it's a device to control us. The illusion of freedom let's them dog walk us. Maybe J6 fund got vetoed, palestine was still flattened along with a bunch of school girls using our taxes.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

So we're supposed to not mention the constitution in order to stop conservatives? I would say make it make sense but it wouldn't be possible for it to make sense.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Nope, actually it says that states get to run and regulate their own elections.

[–] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Genuine question: Does it say that the federal post office cannot filter the mail? Or that state rules for delivering specific kinds of mail the federal post must abide?

[–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Fucking scum.

Use ballot drop boxes instead.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Use ballot drop boxes instead.

Weren't tRump supporters burning them last go around?

I mean, one or two, yes. But there are thousands of them, and now they have improved fire resistance because of those fires.

[–] MrQuallzin@pie.eyeofthestorm.place 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sure, but how are you getting your ballot?

[–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

WA state allows you to print your ballot if it doesn't arrive in time. I'm sure other states do as well.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

The fix is in.

[–] CentipedeFarrier@piefed.social 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One more reason to drop the ballot in a drop box if one is available to you.

I’ve been voting absentee for years and have never returned it through the post.

[–] Infinite@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's the other direction. The ballot won't get to you to drop off.

[–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

States such as Washington allow you to print your ballot if it doesn't arrive in time.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago

IDK what we're going to do in Oregon :( that's the only way we can vote.

[–] rhymeswithduck@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Hill is a little behind on this one. The court just struck down the EO and said postal service must continue to deliver ballots. In the article, Steiner claims he's going to follow whatever the court decides, so let's hope that's the case.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

They’ll deliver them late.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

States need to create a system where the ballots are mailed in a plain manila envelope, then.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

Oh, guys there's a correction coming in... No, they didn't *back. What they meant was *black. Big big difference. Theyre holding black people's vote, they're holding, Latino and Hispanic and Asian votes. Don't worry, they're not holding back the vote. That's crazy talk!

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So mail it in unmarked envelopes. Are you going to try to hold all mail for everyone? Or hold it to specific addresses?

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

Or hold it to specific addresses?

This sounds easiest

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

The Fuckery Advances