Unfortunately, I think they won in the long run
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The south will rise again...to get their welfare checks?
Not sure who is winning in this scenario.
I'm thinking that the Mormons in Utah would win. Isolated enough that what happens elsewhere won't be too much of a bother.
Russia in the 1990s, Haiti, Somali, large occasional power outages. Things go on... Cities are so large that they still somewhat go on functioning; education, hospitals, public transport, local shops. Because what is there to do otherwise? Small bands of armed bandits cause most of the problems, but that never last too long, killing each other. Small regions that break off suffer the most, as resources in those locations get scarce, they get overrun constantly with armed bandits. Small communities start to protect themselves, eventually successfully, and work to re-establish relations with the larger cities.
Most people that can. leave. Wars then go on based on funding from outside interests.
Adorable; I'm betting on one, as a god fearing Westerner. Southies talk big shit, but even their shooters are gravy seals. Coincidentally, did y'all know a majority of the Armed forces are recruited West of the Mississippi? Food for thought.
THE USA would not break apart like that. The red oblasts would suck Texas dry and the whole damn thing would end in a financial and economic calamity. The Blue States with their GDP would form a union and align it with Canada to create another "European Union." A civil war would not worth a single American bone, just break it apart like the Czechs and Slovaks, peacefully.
Well 1 has most of the nukes, money, and food, as well as a really strong natural barrier. And 3 already beat 2 for reasons that remain relevant. So yeah. 1 and 3 ally to curbstomp 2.
Ignorance can be corrected, stupidity is forever it would seem
i wish the USA split like this, id even take it if 1 and 3 fused.
Honestly it would be really easy to burn the entire west to the ground, so much desert and dry forest. That's what we did to the south.
[Insert Goofy I'll fucking do it again meme]
Unfortunately 2 would win because they would have the backing of the entire fucking United States military with kegsbreath in control
They would view 1 and 3 as the traitors to the fascist Republic
Pretty hard to pay your army with welfare states. Also note CA has the most enlisted out of any state and would likely receive a lot of backing from Asian militaries.
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Fortunately, they don't have the backing of the entire fucking United States military, as many tens of thousands in the military are from 1 and 3, and they will protect their families.
The dog catching the car...what do you do with something like NYC. Even if you win? Where do the new doctors graduate from? Nurses? Who certifies them? Same with electricians, carpenters, gasfitters, HVAC and plumbers? Those blue collar jobs would have their professional credentials destroyed, and be forced to compete with every general contractor... a race to the bottom. Sophisticated technology would stop operating after awhile, and with the loss of the supply chain and licenses/regulated manufacturing facilities nothing in the U.S.A. of substance would be built. Only those in the army would be paid. Essentially you'd get N. Korea, fascist Spain, Venezuela or an Iran, like country. Mass migration out.
That's true. At that point honor to rank and superiors goes out the window
The southerners wouldn't even survive a proper winter the north gets.
A lot of them won't survive this summer.
On no anyway
I think you're thinking of Europe lol
West Virginia exists because they didn’t want to be apart of that bullshit, though I suspect they’ve lost their way in the last couple of generations.
Last time I drove through WV, there were confederate flags on a lot of porches.
I remember when I got my CDL and started driving OTR. I got my license about 4 months before Covid locked everything down. Once the lockdowns started it was kind of surreal. Ontario was empty. NY, Pennsylvania, Maryland and Washington, the highways were so quiet.
And then I crossed into Virginia. It was like driving through a portal. Cars and trucks everywhere. It looked like it was Black Friday sales. NO ONE gave two flying fucks about the international reality.
It really solidified my opinion on how utterly stupid Americans as a population are.
I'd have stayed home but nobody was paying my bills for me during it.
I was going to say as much. WV flipped hard in 2000. But it's simple to understand - WV has always been pretty socially conservative, but was Dem because of the unions. They flipped because the Dems decided to turn on the biggest union industries in the state. The coal miner's union isn't a good base for your power when you're overtly talking about actively working to destroy the coal mining industry. To be clear about how much WV cares about coal, it's the state rock and there's a coal miner on the state seal. The libertarian bent of a lot of GOP doesn't hurt either, Montani Semper Liberi and all.
Democrats didn't "turn on" coal, they recognized that it was a collapsing industry doing immeasurable damage to the environment and it would inevitably be phased out. The union failed to account for the future and threw a tantrum about it rather than negotiate re-training or any kind of transition plan.
Not only that but the government offered retraining programs for people who lost/were going to lose their jobs due to a decline in coal. From the outside the "my pa was a coal miner, I'm a coal miner, and my son will be a coal miner" attitude made a lot of those programs not as effective as they should have been.
While unfortunate, it's not like keeping coal is even remotely viable. So it was kinda inevitable.
3 because of Alaska and Hawaii
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