they were willing to overlook so much twisted shit and turns out they wouldnt care if it wasn't a white usian woman.
the platner arc really drove me the point the country is unredeemable. usians can be so gross.
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turns out they wouldnt care if it wasn't a white usian woman.[..]
...who isn't elephant-branded. Previous accusations of abuse were from a woman who was labeled a "Republican operative" by the donkey-branded liberals. And his current accuser only came out non-anonymously because people wouldn't believe her.
Now the left needs to be hammered relentlessly so that they learn their lesson from this. You can not "redeem" yourself as a military service person unless you relentlessly hammer home that it was wrong, that you regret being in it, and that you condemn it. They must dedicate their lives to opposition to it and redemption. The redeemable veterans are like Mike Prysner.
And they need to fucking learn that this "oh but joining the military is ok" shit is absurd. It's not. It's never ok. There are no leftist soldiers and there are no leftist veterans unless they're deeply opposed to the military and what it does.
You can't be a pro or even neutral-military leftist. All the good veterans are anti-military and all the good leftists are also anti-military.
I don't even fucking understand who they think they're pandering to by babying military personnel. Do they think that by telling them what they do is fine they will come around and become leftists? Pro-imperialism leftists? Like wtf is anyone in the left thinking? The only military personnel that are likely to become leftists are the ones seeing what the military is doing and reacting with sheer horror and guilt at it all.
You can't be a pro or even neutral-military leftist. All the good veterans are anti-military and all the good leftists are also anti-military.
I assume from context you are referring to specifically USA/imperial militaries and not, for example, China’s PLA
If a PLA vet ran for the Senate I would commit voter fraud for them
Yes
100%. People should stop acting like being a proud veteran doesn't say anything bad about you as a person. This guy killed people. I repeat, he killed people. He has aleardy demonstrated the capacity for violence far beyond what vast majority of the population is capable of. Is sexual violence really that much of a leap from what he's done in Iraq?
And even that's assuming he didn't do sexual violence in Iraq, which he would have had ample opportunity to do
This whole saga just taught me that the majority of self-appointed thought leaders of what passes as the left in the US are fucking stupid. Their sole responsibility within any org unlucky enough to be saddled with these useless dead weight should be moving heavy boxes from point A to point B and even then they might fuck that up somehow.
This whole saga just taught me that the majority of self-appointed thought leaders of what passes as the left in the US are fucking stupid.
I'm not entirely convinced. I think the people who supported Platner are more likely to be compromised than stupid. Hasan for example has spent literally years upon years diverting people who were ostensibly moving left and convincing them to vote democrat. Even if he had legitimate left wing politics at some point, that point is far behind him now.
A lot of them are both compromised and fools. Idk if Hasan is also a fool or just compromised. I'm inclined to say also a fool because even a vet apologist could have seen Platner as being a liability far beyond the typical smol bean proud veteran and taken any of several offramps to more openly disavow him.
Hasan has simply found his niche and is growing within it. If he abandoned unprincipled electoralism he would have less to speak about that's relevant to the news articles and videos he comes across live on stream and have no chance of being invited to electoralist events to do solo pundit things.
He may understand this as maximizing his relevance and bringing people left through it, but of course that's the exact same logic of opportunism and tailism. Supporting a war criminal Nazi settles the debate of which it is, lol.
Yep. Smart compromised people would be on the "Platner is a Nazi goon" wagon from day 1 so they can reap their leftist cred harvest when the campaign inevitably and predictably collapses.
Very fair point, yeah. Compromised and a total dipshit.
Engels already told us what "people" like Hasan were in 1892. They speculate on the discontent of the lower classes in order to sell them out to one of the big parties afterward.
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Only Vet I would vote for is Mike Pysner
Even here I'm seeing people act like no one could have seen this coming and Platner betrayed them, etc. rather than acknowledging that it was always extremely obvious that he was an unprincipled Nazi piece of shit and people have been pointing it out for months. I don't believe anything will change and I also don't think anyone who was ever willing to support that imperialist POS can be reasonably believed to be on the left.
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Nazi, war criminal, merc, cmon theres so many red flag.
Like at least I can see the rationale behind why people would support zohran, but why the fuck would you want "progressive movement" to be represented by a guy who thinks nazi tattoos are cool is beyond me.
the way people fell over themselves making excuses for that shit and believing he didn't know it was, what, the number 3 nazi symbol? swastika, ss bolts, totenkopf? completely ridiculous
But but but 
rallied people around him!
Like, not knowing about it when you have had nothing to do with it is one thing. American education legitimately sucks, I get it. Not knowing about it when it has been tattooed on your chest for the better part of two decades, though? Come on now. Even if that were true (it is not, he absolutely fucking knew) it should be disqualifying because you shouldn't want to put someone in a position of power who is so incurious that they wore a Nazi symbol on their chest for nearly 20 years without ever looking into it!
Not just a position of power, but a ‘progressive’ who’s going to take on both the democrats and the republicans without getting sidelined, co-opted, or paid off. If he were genuinely that clueless, we could expect him to be a talked into staunch zionism his first week in office, and then a year after his term ended, say he just found out that that meant supporting isreal.
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Mainely he shucked oysters, wore flannel, and a beard like the Mouth of Sauron's teeth.
Just like that all the momentum captured and dusted just as planned. The Obvious Plant has been harvested. Agent Bearded Oyster can go back undercover until the next activation.
He did exactly what he was supposed to do, sabotage the Democratic party by “coming in from the left” and then immediately blowing up at the landing pad.
he also created resentment in his base with that shitty dropout video, making sure they won't vote, and thus saving democrats from the horror of possibly having senate majority.
Commies were shitting on this guy 9 months ago and commies are always right.
Honestly, why would you even run in the first place if you've done anything even remotely questionable.
Yeah, nobody wants any more incredibly groomed dweebs whose families have been prepping them for office since middle school, but come on.
How dumb are people that they assume they'll be able to get away with anything more serious than shoplifting gum once as a child when they're subject to the most scrutiny anyone could reasonably expect to see in their life? You're invariably going to have like 10,000 journalists digging for any scoop they can find on you, and they're not going to leave any stone unturned.
Because otherwise how else will your CIA/Blackwater buddies pay you? He and the people behind him literally thought it was as easy to scam dem voters as it was republican voters. Which, I mean, is a fair conclusion to draw overall, but not quite accurate. It's just almost as easy.
Sorry, gonna have to tap on the sign here. That voters didn't care at all about him being a literal professional torturer at Abu Ghraib should tell you that American voters do not care about anything like this.
Tara Reade got completely smeared and had zero impact on Biden's campaign. It's not about scamming the voters at all with this stuff, it's purely about who the party establishment wants to support or capsize.
The political class doesn't care about assault, they care about their centrist caucus. If Platner was a Zionist running against a DSA candidate, the entirety of the US media machine would be tripping over themselves to discredit the accuser right now.
This is not defense of Platner, I don't think he should have even been permitted to announce his candidacy in the first place and Ryan Grim should find himself in the woodshed for propping him up.
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I saw a great comment on YouTube of all places that the other problem with Platner is that he has no org behind him, no real plan, no discipline, no nothing - he was effectively a vigilante candidate and therefore even if he weren't such a piece of shit he still could never have been effective. One anti Israel politician, in the openly Zionist democratic party? What do you think will come of that? Nothing except for him to be made to act against his supposed anti-israel beliefs.
Not just that. An org can always do one-way support to get a candidate elected and then have no means or desire for discipline once they are in v office. This is the norm for US organizations that support electoral candidates.
So the org itself must prioritize discipline and be ready to cut any elected official loose. Unfortunately, the orgs most interested in electoralism are inherently the least principled and most opportunist and view simply having someone elected in their name as the main goal and success in itself.
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Honestly kind of stunned he actually dropped out. After all the Nazi shit came out and he didn't budge, I thought maybe he had some of that Teflon Don sauce going for him. Guess not. Bye loser!
i'd bet money he could've been all "nah i'm staying in, blue no matter who" and been fine.
it's some 40k shit where he's only vulnerable to it because he thinks he is.
Or he's done more and he's sincerely afraid he would face prison for it. The nazi has a closet full of horrible shit he's done that we'll never know.
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Mark my words, he's going to appear on Tucker in a month.
I say Joe Rogan and he's going to do a "why I left the left" interview.
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Can he end his life too or is he gonna need some help with that
I'm so fucking sick of the discourse surrounding this imperialist dog
Bye bozo
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