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Honestly, why would you even run in the first place if you've done anything even remotely questionable.
Yeah, nobody wants any more incredibly groomed dweebs whose families have been prepping them for office since middle school, but come on.
How dumb are people that they assume they'll be able to get away with anything more serious than shoplifting gum once as a child when they're subject to the most scrutiny anyone could reasonably expect to see in their life? You're invariably going to have like 10,000 journalists digging for any scoop they can find on you, and they're not going to leave any stone unturned.
because am*ricans excused literally everything else about him
This stuff is never about what voters think or care about, because they never care.
It's about what the party establishment wants, and someone with any dirt on them at all is unfathomably stupid to attempt to counter the establishment. At best, this behaviour is pure selfishness but in all likelihood is calculated behavior to wreck leftist organizations.
This is unrelated, but has anyone ever told you your signature image looks like it says "you have nothing to lose but your penis"?
tbh still works
tbh still works
funnily enough, yes!
Because otherwise how else will your CIA/Blackwater buddies pay you? He and the people behind him literally thought it was as easy to scam dem voters as it was republican voters. Which, I mean, is a fair conclusion to draw overall, but not quite accurate. It's just almost as easy.
Sorry, gonna have to tap on the sign here. That voters didn't care at all about him being a literal professional torturer at Abu Ghraib should tell you that American voters do not care about anything like this.
Tara Reade got completely smeared and had zero impact on Biden's campaign. It's not about scamming the voters at all with this stuff, it's purely about who the party establishment wants to support or capsize.
The political class doesn't care about assault, they care about their centrist caucus. If Platner was a Zionist running against a DSA candidate, the entirety of the US media machine would be tripping over themselves to discredit the accuser right now.
This is not defense of Platner, I don't think he should have even been permitted to announce his candidacy in the first place and Ryan Grim should find himself in the woodshed for propping him up.
Honestly Ryan grim needs to be purged. I know Hasan and others get a lot of (deserved) hate but Grim's dead ender shit was really disgusting
True enough but I think dropping Hasan is more urgent if only because of the size of his following and, frankly, the ridiculous levels of grace people are willing to give him despite the fact that his only real role for the past few years has been to promote democrats.
He gave his audience a new left bashing insult when he gets any pushback on electrolism, ultra. But since it is already used in football, I'll just call myself ultra tankie.
The terms "ultra-left" and "left-communist" have been in use since the 1920s, and describe the tendencies put forward by Bordiga, Ruhlë, and Pannekoek. You can read Lenin's thoughts on these do-nothings in "Left-Wing" Communism: An Infantile Disorder.
The term's use in football didn't show up until the 1960s.
Sounds like something from communist voltron
I don't buy this at all. Not going to say he's a true ally, but his work for the NYC DSA slate and also AES and Cuba suggest he's more than just a grifter to me.
If his goal is to make Mamdani unremarkable, our goal should be to make Hasan unremarkable, but I don't think dumping him is actually the way to do so. Just my .02 but it feels like there's way more obvious targets out there (Grim after this platner shit, liberals and right wingers) than someone who is already far to the left of the Overton window in America and generally avoids the worst kinds of slopulism. The fact he's never backed down on trans rights, Palestine,etc. even though it would have been the easiest pivot suggests he's in good faith even if he's still an electoralist.
Just my .02 and obviously you're welcome to disagree but I think there's way more important targets than someone who pushes for the most left candidates our current system offers. Our job, in union organizing (what I do) and other forms of power is to produce the real material leverage that can change the system beyond electoralism.
Hasan is an electoralist at the end of the day though. For those of us who see it as one strategy (and I should say, my personal position is electoralism is a means to an end, it can open up space for organizing wins ( i.e. if right wing administrations produce organizing energy, left wing organizations make it slightly easier to do the actions to get real wins for my members. This isn't to say you can't strike under a right wing admin, but there's definitely more contingencies in that case. Just my .02)).
I'd rather have someone like DAC in office when my union strikes since they might actually show up at the picket like and push the administrative state to pressure my bosses. That's just my perspective though, and obviously I understand that anti electoralist comrades think that's not worth it in the grand scheme. Still, if Hasan got someone like that elected in my state/district, I think it would be worth it.
imo it’s not a question of whether Platner is sincere, but why, even if he is sincere, he thinks he is the right leader in this place and moment.
For example: I sincerely believe in liberation for LGBTQIA+, black liberation, etc; but, seeing as I don’t fit those categories, I understand it would be inappropriate for me to take up the mantle of leadership for those causes. I’m relegated to a support role, and that’s ok.
yeah where was this energy when it was Cuomo trying to keep Mamdani down?
It's that simple. Voters don't actually care, it's just another weapon for the establishment to use against outsider candidates.
They'll prop up a thousand Bidens and Cuomos and Weiners and Swallwells for years because the establishment doesn't actually care either. They'll disappear Al Franken when all they have is a pic of him doing hover hands over a plate carrier so they could repeal Dodd-Frank or Eric Massa for tickling a male staffer so they can pass Obamacare instead of single-payer.
If you're challenging the establishment in any way, you just have to be Mr. Rogers tier squeaky clean.
real political power comes from getting away with shit.
You get approached by a Democratic Party handler who says "Hey kid you want to run for Senate in Maine?" And you say "Uh sure" and they assure you "Don't worry about your past we can make that all go away or spin it into a non-issue, whatever it is." And you think, well, they must know what they're doing!
Something like that.
Someone posted an article the other day that was about there was some Democratic Kingmaker who handpicked Platner to run for Senate after seeing a short video of him speaking
Not to rely on the image of the scheming vizier helping someone attain power so that they themselves can ride on their coattails...
But that's basically exactly what happened
Yeah, real stupid on the part of that dem operative to not do their due diligence.
Like half the time all you gotta do to avoid a scandal like this is hire a PI and you'll figure out the candidate is nonviable within a couple of weeks.
Literally only vetted him for two days
Most up-and-comers are vetted for a month at least
Yes, but our president is literally the man with most dirt on earth, his election encourages fellow scums and criminals to run for office
People keep drawing parallels between this and the Epstein stuff but I don't think it's really comparable.
Like, wasn't part of Epstein's whole deal was he was discrete enough that while he himself eventually got busted more of his "clients" don't have any smoking gun evidence against them? Neither Trump or Clinton or anyone else I think has had any dead to right shit come out against them. This means their supporters have enough plausible deniability that they can act like their guy just happened to hang with Epstein and didn't know about all the shit going down (but the OTHER guy TOTALLY did).
Meanwhile Platner's accuser actually posted receipts, which combined with all the other CONFIRMED shit we know about him paints a picture that there's no plausible deniability with.