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[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 1 points 18 minutes ago

If I kept my level and get a team with >200 IQ, then I'll be the idiot any day.

I'm a middle aged industry engineer and having a team of morons at this point is so fucking tiresom.

They're not really morons. Companies obsessing about efficiency are just beating people in to lumps of apathy that don't want to use more than 2% their brain power on anything. If they also have a culture of punishment, it kills all initiative and you end up with mouth breathers with a thousand yard stare all day.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 41 minutes ago* (last edited 40 minutes ago)

Idiot on an intelligent team, I'll only get better

Intelligent in an idiot team, they will only make me dumber

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Get a job as a software engineer and you'll spend most days feeling like both simultaneously

Do I get dumber to become the idiot or is everyone else just smarter than me?

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 hours ago

So long as the intelligent people are also kind. A group of intelligent people that are backbiting and cruel is the absolute worst.

[–] ctry21@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago

I've been both on different uni projects. Far better being the smart one in a group of idiots and just banging out the work without interference for a good grade. Being the idiot on the smart team was torture.

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 hours ago

"idiot" and "intelligent" are not mutually exclusive. One can be both at the same time. There are intelligent people doing idiotic stuff.

[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 9 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

If you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 9 hours ago

If you're the dumbest person in the room, are you in the right room?

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Why is it wrong to be the smartest person?

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Because I know how much of a dumbass I am. If I’m the smartest, the room is full of complete fucking idiots.

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 hours ago

I would be rather smart than being an idiot.

[–] rucksack@feddit.org 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Because you'll be unable to learn anything. You'll eventually get dumber.

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think so. A smart person can still learn while being the smartest in the room. People don't get dumber, just because they are the smartest of all in the room. In fact you might be able to help others, or be the only one who can solve the problem. Then you are the right person in the room.

On the other hand, being dumb or an idiot does not mean you will learn... most likely you will not (that's why its called an idiot). Smart people can be an asshole or you cannot keep up with them and just be a burden.

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 hours ago

Teaching others is one of the best ways to learn. There are levels of hell though. E.g. try teaching MAGA anything about the scientific method.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 7 points 9 hours ago

Idiot in a team of smart people, so I can learn from them.

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 65 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Idiot on a team of intelligent people. I get pissed off at people being stupid. My team might get pissed off at me but that's their problem. And generally I like being around people smarter than me because I learn a lot from them.

[–] TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

Ignorance truly is bliss in a lot of situations

[–] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 2 points 13 hours ago

And I might learn some new things. Being the least intelligent person in a group doesn’t mean being stupid.

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 hours ago

It's amazing how many choose to be an idiot.

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 27 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Idiot on a team of intelligent people. Hopefully, they'll put up with me long enough to point where I learn enough to stop being an idiot.

[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Congratulations on your new position in management.

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

I fucking wish.

[–] illi@sh.itjust.works 46 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

To be the inteligent person in a team of idiots is certainly one of the worst things that could happen to you.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago

That depends, if one of the idiots is in charge, it's torture. However, if you don't have to answer to any of them, you can set them up with busy work to feel important and do all the actual work yourself. Then it's only bad if you don't like the work.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 12 hours ago
[–] blackbrook@mander.xyz 6 points 14 hours ago

I'm going to have to choose to be the intelligent person. You might think the idiot has it easy...they may even not know they are an idiot. But they could be so stupid they also think all the intelligent people are idiots, so they might get all the frustration of thinking they are the intelligent person on a team of idiots while actually being the opposite.

[–] RoquetteQueen@sh.itjust.works 40 points 20 hours ago

Idiot on the team of intelligent people. I'd rather just be responsible for educating myself and not everybody else.

[–] Fleppensteijn@sh.itjust.works 6 points 15 hours ago

Ignorance is bliss. Besides, it's usually the idiots who get promoted.

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 25 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

There is nothing worse than working for an idiot.

[–] unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Working for an idiot with peers that are his fellow idiots. Definitely worse than just working for an idiot.

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

OMG YES!!!

That chorus of dumbfucks that just reenforce the idiocy....

[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 14 points 19 hours ago

If the smart people are nice, I'd be ok being the idiot. Still might feel a little bad over not being able to help. Maybe I'll be the cheerleader. "Go team! Hell yeah! Crunch those numbers!"

I'll bring snacks?

[–] Slowy@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

Depends what the team is doing. If it’s a marathon running team for charity, or a team of people picking up garbage on a beach, it probably doesn’t matter much.

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

In my early career I made a bit of a niche for myself being the idiot on a team of very smart people. My job was to ask the simple question that none of them considered before it was too late.

[–] sunsofold@lemmy.zip 9 points 19 hours ago

If I'm the smart one, I have to do all the work I can't trust to idiots, run the team or be on a team run by an idiot, be the most responsible according to any outside observer, and my success will still be mostly reliant on idiots.

If I'm the idiot, at worst I'd be mocked, but maybe I'd be too stupid to notice. At least the work would be more likely to be successful.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Do you continue being an idiot outside the context of the team?

I’d rather be surrounded by people more capable than me (at least if I care about the success of the task), but not at that cost.

[–] TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

U r idjut 4eva end errybody nose it

[–] MrKoyun@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Sign me up. Being an idiot all the time for everything seems like such a good time.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago

I've gone being the smartest person in the room in my previous couple roles (mostly because I was the only person with any IT or platform knowledge, not because I'm some prodigy) to the bottom of the totem pole and well behind the intelligence of my current team since I changed careers.

It's wonderful having people around that are smarter than me that I can learn from and ask questions to. It's hard being the idiot on a team when you're trying to improve and care about your work. Working with idiots that don't care or seemingly never improve is the worst. I've learned more over the past 8 months than I have since I started my professional career.

I like the phrase, "Never be the smartest person in the room". Sometimes it happens, but in most situations, there is someone else that is more knowledgeable about something than you, and that's an opportunity to learn.

[–] joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 20 hours ago

being an idiot is the wise choice here

[–] thenextguy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 19 hours ago

Just kill me now.

[–] ignominous_wombat@lemmy.ml 3 points 20 hours ago

It really depends on how interesting the people are and how good they are at storytelling. I've met super annoying smart people and really entertaining dumb people so it's not like intelligence is the determining factor.

I'd probably rather be hanging out with either the more interesting or more autistic group because I think we'd get along the best. If that makes me the idiot of the group, I don't think that's too bad of a deal.

[–] Wxfisch@piefed.world 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

When you say team of idiots, are these people that are just lazy, or don’t know how to do the work? I can work with people who want to do the right thing but lack experience and knowledge. But a team of people that are lazy and don’t care would be torture to work with so in that case ignorance is bliss.

[–] TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Like they aren't capable of following instructions even if they wanted to

[–] Wxfisch@piefed.world 2 points 15 hours ago

I think I could do that, assuming they want to. As frustrating as it is to be the smart person on a team of people who don’t know anything, if they at least care some then it’s not a total loss.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 20 hours ago

I am not a team player

[–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 0 points 20 hours ago

I'd rather be me