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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 112 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The word is 'lose', not 'spend'.

[–] db_null@lemmy.dbzer0.com 88 points 3 days ago

And 'addiction', not 'favourite pastime'.

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

yeah, they would be better advised to throw their money into the garbage, at least that way they wouldn't make some rich asshole even richer.

[–] xylol@leminal.space 9 points 3 days ago

Nice try big garbage industry man

[–] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago (4 children)

No, spend is right. The number being compared against is the amount spent on gambling. Obviously some of those bets won, so the amount lost would be far less.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

All fair points. I just object to people breathlessly putting out stories like this as if it a good thing and anything other than gambling at best, and insider trading at worst. The only people winning on those sites are the people with inside information.

(edit: fixed typos)

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is horrible for America.

Matthew Broderick, an actor I used to respect, is now doing commercials for another gambling app, except this one isn't sports or cards or slots, it's games that resemble Candy Crush, etc. with a gambling component built in.

They aren't targeting young men with this one, they are targeting middle-aged women, and not just any middle-aged women, they are targeting those with unfulfilled lives. I've seen three separate ads, and all of them feature middle-aged women who are being ignored or treated badly by their families. They look sad, until Ferris Beuller sidles up and gives them this fun new game to play, and forget their troubles. I've never seen a more blatant attempt to take advantage of a emotionally unstable person than these ads. They are reprehensible.

Add to that, the fact that many household budgets are handled by the Wife/Mom. It's only a matter of time before we start seeing stories of women who lost the family home because they gambled away the family finances.

This is insidious. They are trying to keep as much money out of our hands as possible, and what we do get, they scheme to take it all away. They want us to die penniless.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

John hamm, they got Hamm and he rarely does any ads at all.

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[–] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 74 points 3 days ago (4 children)

This is a very American thing.

Measuring popularity in terms of money spent.

By this metric, spending time with loved ones or going for a short walk has zero popularity.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Spoiler: This is how GDP works too. Didn't make any money? It's not considered real work. EVERYTHING in the US serves capital - not people.

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[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

"So long as they (the Proles) continued to work and breed, their other activities were without importance. Left to themselves, like cattle turned loose upon the plains of Argentina, they had reverted to a style of life that appeared to be natural to them, a sort of ancestral pattern...Heavy physical work, the care of home and children, petty quarrels with neighbors, films, football, beer and above all, gambling filled up the horizon of their minds. To keep them in control was not difficult."

George Orwell, 1984

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

How is it different than day trading in the stock market? Both systems are fixed to lose.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sign of a real healthy society, that.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yup. More people are desperate and are trying for a chance to “win it big” and get out of the situation they’re in. Whereas art, museums, etc. doesn’t help an immediate living situation and gets deprioritized

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago
[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 days ago

I had figured it would, once gambling regulations were bypassed, and no-one recognized that gambling houses make for a moral hazard.

For a long time the US economy has depended on companies exploiting human cognitive biases and addictive mechanisms, from selling booze to bank service fees, to click-wrapped ToS agreements, and yes, to gambling.

There's a reason we regulated it, much the way we regulate advertising so that it's not deceptive.

One beef is the slop of fear and rage that is used to sell far right news media. FOX News even encourages its viewership to abandon all over news sources, like an abusive domestic partner.

If we don't figure out a way out of it, so that confidence ploys and cognitive manipulation for profit are once again regarded as foul play and business in bad faith, then we're just going to be owned by the ownership class. Literally.

But they're not very smart, so they'll not do a thing to address the climate crisis.

[–] joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone 28 points 3 days ago

I hate this country more every day

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There's no hope for this place. May our children forgive us.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Kinda hope they don’t. The US was equipped with plenty of ways, even through the propaganda, to dodge the evil bullshit and the country just keeps barrelling towards hell. And here in Canada we’re doing the same thing, arguably worse because the US is RIGHT THERE and we’re like “nah, I’m not going to learn from those mistakes actually.”

Canada and the US do not deserve forgiveness. May our children survive us, and may they have the strength to hate all the conservatives, “centrists”, and politically ignorant people who sold their lives to a handful of the most stupid, greedy, and dweeby fucks the human race has ever produced.

[–] pipi1234@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (3 children)

What a deranged headline.

Its comparison is nonsensical.

No sane person gambles for entertaining purposes.

People gamble because they are addicts or in need of money.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Who isn't in need of money? Isn't that the overwhelming majority of people?

[–] Kurtismayfield@lemmy.zip 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The sports gambling apps will be the number one cause of divorce in the US one day. The sheer number of married men betting on them..

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 2 days ago

It's going the other way, too. I just wrote a wall of text about the new Candy Crush style of gambling apps that are targeting unfulfilled middle-aged women, encouraging them to play these apps to self-soothe after poor treatment by their families. Seriously, that's the pitch in the three separate ads I've seen, featuring celebrity spokesperson Ferris Beuller.

Women often handle the family finances. Soon we'll be seeing stories of women who lost the house gambling on high-octane Candy Crush.

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[–] DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah in part that is because it isn't a pastime it's a full blown life crippling addiction for a lot of people.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

The language they use in this article pisses me off too.

This shit isn't healthy and talking about it like it is a healthy behavior is very irresponsible on the part of the media.

[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

The amount of money spent doesn't really accurately represent how much a past time is "liked", since money (obviously) isn't distributed evenly. A more useful metric would be how much time people spend doing this in comparison to the other options, which is impossible to measure. Also in theory it could be literally 1 or 2 people doing the gambling if they have enough money, while everyone else goes to museums and listens to music.

It's even more true with the other options not being exactly expensive (in particular museums, but the other options are will). Try spending 50k $ gambling: no problem. Try spending 1k $ going to museums: you'll be busy for 2 years or something.

Basically the whole premise is just dumb.

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[–] chortle_tortle@mander.xyz 14 points 3 days ago

Americans love the surprising new hobby of shooting up fentanyl, spending more on it than food or housing!

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well... you don't get money back from movies, arts, museums, or music, but there is a miniscule chance you could from gambling.

With the economy the way it is, it's more likely people are just desperate. And some are definitely addicted, of course.

Yeah, this unfortunately. Too real

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Anything but vote for somebody to tax wealth instead of work.

[–] vapordays@leminal.space 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Who can I vote for that would actually do that?

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Someone who supports FPTP and plays dumb about it, obviously. /s

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago

Depends which country you're in. UK: Greens, France: LFI, US: independents, Italy: Partito Democratico, ...

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Gambling should be banned. And not just the prediction markets and sports-book, but the lottery too.

It's just theft with extra steps.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago

Then it just goes underground, where it's worse. Better to keep it above board, but that requires responsible regulation and enforcement, which hasn't been the case.

Most importantly, there should be absolutely no advertising of any kind, period, and that goes for ALL vices - alcohol, cigarettes, weed, etc. We shouldn't be encouraging people to participate in these activities.

We should also levy special taxes on these vices, which go to treatment facilities, so that anyone can get free treatment for addictions, and to anti-vice marketing and advertising.

[–] Siethron@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Don't forget the stock market.

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[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 14 points 3 days ago

Gambling always goes up as the economy gets worse for the average worker.

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't gamble but at that same time, I can't pirate gambling.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You could though. You could run a knockoff gambling site that doesn’t actually cost (or give) you any money.

The irony of gambling is that it’s the opposite of other media; the addictive part is paying for it.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The headline hurts my head.

Not a murican, but recently we wanted to visit a museum on Saturday. We expected it to be a nightmare. And we were the only ones. Saturday before we were in a gigantic mall and it was a literal nightmare. Like an antfarm of workerants spending their weekend.

That museum made me sad, it didn't even cost money and had tons of interesting things to offer. But people prefer anthills and spending bigtime on silly brands.

Another generation further and we probably can close the museums.

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[–] vapordays@leminal.space 6 points 3 days ago

healthy society, good economy

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

To make everyone feel even more awful, the "commercials before the movie" will probably start to have "financial engagement opportunities" as the theater houses look to try to stay alive. Pro sports venues will make it more "in your face" and offer discounts on food if you are wagering or better seats or free game tickets or some shit. Books, well most Americans don't read as adults so I think that'll continue it's current state at least. Live theater could wager on what color Hamlet's scene two entrance clothes will be....at the end of the day they'll probably hop on for survival since many of their patrons or past donors are similarly disengaging.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Luckily, I'm unlucky and never win anything, so I don't bother gambling.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've long been pro vice. People should be free to drink, fuck, do drugs, gamble… Strict prohibition doesn't work, can backfire, and often involves a lot of state violence. But there's a difference between a trip to Vegas or a Native American nation here and there, friday night poker with the friends, and a charity Monte Carlo night from time to time vs what we have now.

The current gambling situation in America is like having a vodka faucet in every home that can't be disconnected. It's like being besieged with ads for opiate delivery apps. It makes gambling so easy an addict can't avoid it and it's constantly being shoved down our throats. When gambling was difficult it was reasonable for a person without an addictive personality or family history of addiction to give it a shot, but these days it's like playing with fire while unable to tell if you're coated in gasoline.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

A lot of the problem is lack of regulation and enforcement. These apps play fast and loose with self exclusion and identifying problem gamblers, with no real consequences. They also tend to ban or heavily limit anyone who wins big. There's also been a few stories of sports books canceling bets as obvious errors to avoid large payouts.

It would be a lot better if regulation more closely aligned with that of alcohol.

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