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The leaders of progressive groups focused on mobilizing young voters are warning President Joe Biden that his handling of the war in Gaza could depress turnout in a demographic that’s already notoriously difficult to energize on Election Day.

"We write to you to issue a very stark and unmistakable warning: you and your Administration’s stance on Gaza risks millions of young voters staying home or voting third party next year.

“We mobilized the record youth turnout in 2020 that pushed your ticket over the finish line... Many of us worked to provide the critical source of support for Democrats in the 2022 midterm elections that prevented the Red Wave.

"Young people are a cornerstone of a winning Democratic coalition, and the vast majority of young people in this country are rightfully horrified by the atrocities committed with our tax dollars, with your support, and our nation’s military backing.

“We did not spend hours upon hours knocking doors and making calls to turn out the vote so that you could support indiscriminate slaughter of civilians and violations of international law. Your legacy hangs in the balance.”

Signers include the heads of groups like March for Our Lives, United We Dream, Gen Z for Change, and the Sunrise Movement.

A New York Times-Siena College poll of five swing states found that among voters under 30, who lean heavily Democratic, just 5% “strongly approve” of how Biden is doing his job and 25% “somewhat approve.”

Literally has a lower approval rating with the most Democratic generation than the most Republican generation. Zero chance his ass is getting reelected

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[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 93 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Democrats would rather lose the election and keep the donors, than to win the election but lose the donors.

It appears that the bourgeoisie is 100% behind Israel. I have not heard of a single corporation that even bothers to both sides like they did with BLM.

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That's because black people are consumers and thus people but Palestinians don't buy McDonald's so they can't (by the amerikkkan definition) be people

It's the "colorblind" (but not really) capitalist version of us-foreign-policy

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It’s not illegal to BDS businesses that don’t stand with BLM (even if The support is pointless and performative). It’s illegal to BDS pro-Israel companies because their support directly upholds the occupation. Liberals only want you to vooote with your wallet when it doesn’t do anything. So basically they have nothing to worry about.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 73 points 9 months ago

Democrats are 100% happier to lose than actually fight for the working class, as long as they can blame voters for not liking them enough.

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 54 points 9 months ago

Listen, Jack: I'm not gonna do shit for you, but you still owe me your vote!

biden-troll

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 49 points 9 months ago
[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 28 points 9 months ago
[-] LeZero@hexbear.net 25 points 9 months ago

Witness uh... witness the thing Jack!

[-] Aryuproudomenowdaddy@hexbear.net 24 points 9 months ago

He transforms from Sleepy Joe at the thought of brown children being crushed beneath rubble.

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

If they win it's because of their ideals, knowledge, and cunning

If they lose, it's because us fucking slobs didn't vote for them and we should be ashamed of not voting for the best party with the right ideas

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 63 points 9 months ago

We did not spend hours upon hours knocking doors and making calls to turn out the vote so that you could support indiscriminate slaughter of civilians and violations of international law.

Lmao

[-] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 33 points 9 months ago

“We told the tankies they were wrong. Stop making them right.”

[-] Trustmeitsnotabailou@hexbear.net 19 points 9 months ago

Sorry Jack/jill. Parlamitarian said i have to do the genocide.
My hands are tied

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Lol the fucking parliamentarian

I forgot what even that vote was about

Edit oh yeah it was literally everything good in the Biden agenda

[-] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

I read that as pronouns first

[-] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago

"Actually, fun thing about bourgeois elections, you did! Isn't that neat?"

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 58 points 9 months ago

“We did not spend hours upon hours knocking doors and making calls to turn out the vote so that you could support indiscriminate slaughter of civilians and violations of international law. Your legacy hangs in the balance.”

Yeah no fuck off, the slaughter has already taken place, his "legacy" isn't hanging in the balance, it's already dripping with blood, he's not going to become a genocider, he already IS fuck this temporally nonsensical hedging bullshit

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 28 points 9 months ago

Yeah, there is literally nothing he could do to redeem himself

He do a complete 180 on policy, apologize to the world on live television then call in a drone strike on himself and his whole family killing them all and that still wouldn't bring back any of the kids he murdered

[-] Trustmeitsnotabailou@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago

Your don't under stand! His the best president ever. Doing a bang up job.

Please no followup questions in what he has actually done

[-] mar_k@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah lol libs grasping at straws. Enough of us are not going to vote for him and he will lose. There is nothing he can do to save face. Reminds me of this absolute redditor take I saw on his radically dropping approval rating among dems:

If genocide Joe somehow wins 2024 I will eat crow

[-] OgdenTO@hexbear.net 56 points 9 months ago

Sir your actions are leading directly to the deaths of thousands of children.

So? dem

Sir your actions are going to lead to a drop in votes next year.

What?! ! biden-harbinger

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

A lot of brunch libs would be chanting from the River to the Sea

[-] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 49 points 9 months ago

I'm so glad I wrote in kim-drip-too-hard instead of the murderous tyrant brandon

[-] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 38 points 9 months ago

What exactly would be worse right now if Trump were still president?

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The economy! Trump would have given out a check for 600$ probably, which would have made line go down more. I think trans people might get even more persecuted? On the federal level like. On the other hand libs actually came to protest/riot under Trump, now they don't give a shit. I doubt cop city would be treated as callously if it was under Trump (looking at the riots in 2020 here).

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 22 points 9 months ago

He'd be very rude about it

owl-pissed

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 20 points 9 months ago

I’m like 90% sure things would be better rn under Trump if for no other reason than Trump makes the libs follow us

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 6 points 9 months ago

Wonder if Trump being extremely pro Israel would make libs follow Palestine, or if they'd be like 'See, even HE gets it right'

[-] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 6 points 9 months ago

Probably the latter, like they did when he bombed Syria

[-] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

uh still genocide ig

maybe US troops being deployed earlier? But Biden is off the rails about that too

[-] brainw0rms@hexbear.net 29 points 9 months ago

unapologetic genocide vs. probably genocide + mean tweets. the choice has never been more clear sweaty maybe-later-kiddo

[-] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 9 months ago

thats what a lot of people are asking and so far there's no good answer that isn't just hyperbole

[-] Stoneykins@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago

Nothing globally, really, as far as I can tell

Locally, horrible people seemed to become more emboldened, violent, and generally horrible in response to his becoming president the first time. Since they are roughly the same otherwise, I still want a biden win just for the practicality of not getting the shitheads firing their guns in the air, etc.

[-] Nagarjuna@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The NLRB would be making dogs shit decisions and taking 6 months to hold elections.

[-] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 9 months ago

When they lose they'll just blame it on Russia. Or China. Or maybe the spooky 'axis of evil'.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 44 points 9 months ago

No, they'll blame it on the voters, it's already happening. It's not Bidens fault people won't vote for him, it's the voters! There's even a contingent that's somehow still complaining about "Bernie bros"

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Bernie is the establishment's god damned gimp and they're still terrified of him even as he obediently accepts being walked around on their short leash

[-] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 25 points 9 months ago

i mean, id like to think the damn zoomers are free-palestine if the dingdongs on reddit are any judge of shit, but reddit brain isnt IRL yet so what do the Sunrise Movement, Gen Z For Change, United We Dream and March For Our Lives have to say?

also, vote

[-] mar_k@hexbear.net 44 points 9 months ago

Zoomers are mostly very pro-Palestine yeah. I'm a college student so I definitely notice it

Check out this thread: https://hexbear.net/post/989744

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Fucking damn it I hate my crowd

All my zoomer friends and acquaintances in tech is either completely ambivalent to the situation or pro-Palestine but very anti-Hamas and anti resistance for self liberation

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 29 points 9 months ago

the time to hedge your support of hamas was like 30 years ago before israel murdered all the more moderate palestinian leaders and left them as the only option

like, it's real easy to say I wouldn't support them from my throne in the imperial core, where I haven't been getting carpet bombed every other month my entire life

[-] mar_k@hexbear.net 24 points 9 months ago

Tech bros are a disease

[-] zephyreks@hexbear.net 21 points 9 months ago

I'm in tech and pro-resistance. We're out there <3

[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

the kids are alright

[-] Trustmeitsnotabailou@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago

Sorry guys. The Dems did good last night. So now we get to ignore all this pressure and allow Israel to expand it's genocide

[-] footfaults@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago

deeper-sadness I was thinking about this just now.

They will have learned no lessons

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

if joe biden cared what people under 40 thought he'd be in a box.

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