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[-] Perfide@reddthat.com 172 points 7 months ago

They gonna call Bernard "I got into politics because my extended family literally died in the holocaust" Sanders antisemitic now?

[-] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 50 points 7 months ago

“While Israel has the right to go after Hamas, Netanyahu’s right-wing extremist government does not have the right to wage almost total warfare against the Palestinian people,” the Vermont senator said in a statement.

Seems like his views on this are pretty much aligned with that of typical israelis.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago

And yet that's the same view that has had people screaming about anti-semitism for the past month.

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[-] Adubya@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

Senator Sanders is in lockstep with Biden & rest of Democratic caucus's view here. There is a big push not to lose the path for a two-state solution and to pause West Bank settlement expansion. Wouldn't be surprised if President Biden's friend Bernard consulted with him about this beforehand.

[-] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago

It's almost like it's a complex problem with no easy solution

[-] VentraSqwal@links.dartboard.social 7 points 7 months ago

So was South Africa and the Native Americans and the racial relations in the US and countless other situations but we still try to inrpove them.

[-] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

I'm not saying to ignore the problem, I'm saying that the solution won't fit in a tweet or a lemmy text box

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[-] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

No, come on, don't be like that. We can do this.

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[-] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 145 points 7 months ago

This man could have been the president

[-] Thteven@lemmy.world 80 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Not if the DNC had anything to do about it, and they did.

[-] spider@lemmy.nz 9 points 7 months ago

After all, they're part of The Big Club.

(NSFW - language)

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 41 points 7 months ago

I voted for him, but I have a feeling his agenda would have gone nowhere thanks to the corporate ass-kissers in both parties in congress and the judiciary. Maybe we don't deserve social democracy.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago

I voted for him, but I have a feeling his agenda would have gone nowhere thanks to the corporate ass-kissers in both parties in congress and the judiciary. Maybe we don’t deserve social democracy.

Not with that attitude we don't.

[-] 4lan@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

that kind of defeatism guarantees that we will never have a morally upstanding president.

You are a part of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Sanders would not get everything he wants done in a term, but any progress is better than our current puppet presidents

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago

Nah, tho. Young people didn’t vote in high enough numbers. Depressing. I voted Bernie.

[-] Esqplorer@lemmy.zip 29 points 7 months ago

I didn't. I was wrong. I'm sorry.

[-] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 31 points 7 months ago

At least you own it. That's progress.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Several million young prospective voters were prevented from voting by going to college in states that don't allow out of state resident voting and not being able to vote in their home states on a Tuesday.

Add the fact that colleges are typically critically underserved when it comes to voting infrastructure, leading to a requirement to stand in line for the equivalent of a full-time job working day and it's clear that it's not young people being too apathetic.

It's politicians ratfucking them almost as much as they ratfuck people of color and people of color have much better get out the vote infrastructure to counteract it than colleges do.

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[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 70 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

As usual, the voice of sanity.

As usual, he'll be declared unrealistic and unreasonable for it by his own lesser peers and party.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 56 points 7 months ago

Oh, centrists and trumpists are gonna identically hate this.

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[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 50 points 7 months ago

I have a better idea... why doesn't the US just stop funding murderous fascism everywhere period?

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Because being morally upstanding doesn't work when every other country is trying to outmaneuver you geopolitically.

[-] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 10 points 7 months ago

So maintaining global dominance is so important the US just has to enable war crimes and ethnic cleansing? That’s the logic of fascism.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Oh, poor, poor US... forced to be the most prolific funder and enabler of fascist terrorism in human history because somebody else twisted it's arm.

Poor, poor US.

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[-] dx1@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The same standards should be applied to all countries. Otherwise you're forced into a vicious cycle of an arms race for brutal global domination. This is the purpose of international law and if anything we should be decentralizing and strengthening it.

https://consortiumnews.com/2023/11/20/us-israel-dead-last-in-following-un-charter/

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[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 39 points 7 months ago

How about just not giving Israel aid, period?

If its capable of launching a genocidal crusade, it must be developed and stable enough to not need our fucking purse strings holding it up.

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

We already have laws that prohibit giving military aid to genocidal regimes.

We're just ignoring them.

[-] MrSqueezles@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago

While Israel has the right to go after Hamas, Netanyahu’s right-wing extremist government does not have the right to wage almost total warfare against the Palestinian people

A nuanced view? Is that allowed?

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[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 8 points 7 months ago

That would be the place (the Senate) to do it, not the Presidency.

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago

This just proves that Sanders is the biggest antisemite. /s

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