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[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 79 points 8 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
[-] NIB@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

We only have his side of the story. Personally i think he killed her and then tried to make his murder appear more noble by lying about her shitting on Muhammad and trying to convert him to christianism.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

What? Are you saying a man who took a girlfriend before marriage and is committing a plethora of sin is not as religious as he is trying to make it out to be?

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago

How the fuck is that better

[-] cals11@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago

It's not. But I guess in his mind it's better?

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

Pretty much any God ever, because they are all made up by assholes to begin with.

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

If your god is so great then let him do his own killing.

[-] thantik@lemmy.world 75 points 8 months ago

Literally an ended life because someone said their imaginary friend was better than the other person's imaginary friend.

[-] JustRobForNow@mastodon.social 17 points 8 months ago

@thantik
& It's the same imaginary friend.

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[-] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 65 points 8 months ago

There are so many messed up things with this guy.

Judge: Why didn’t you inform Emergency Services to send an ambulance?

Defendant: That was the biggest mistake.

Really? Not calling them was? Your biggest mistake wasn't strangling her?

Also, they'd been dating for 1.5 years! She was just 15 years old and was dating a 21yo guy.

In some countries, that would be statuary rape. In Greece, it's 15. Things that make you go 'hmmmm'.

Lastly, she wanted him to convert to Christianity. Obviously their religions were already a problem for their relationship. If we take the testimony as factual (and I will), it seems like a pretty normal argument fed by high emotions and low maturity. Because hey, she's basically still a kid. Yeah, it wasn't a well handled argument, but he's 23, had known her for (at least) 1.5 years and went for physical violence to deal with the situation.

I don't see a problem with the verdict. He'll probably get parole in a decade or so, we'll see if the family gets revenge on him then.

[-] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

> Muslim

>dating a girl with huge age gap

>Killed her for cursing Muhammad.

Somehow not surprising. Especially when Aisha was also 6 years old.

[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It doesn't help that the article seems to be quite poorly translated/written. It references the man asking the victims family for an apology when the quote indicated he is trying to give one. Very confusing/incorrect phrasing throughout.

[-] quams69@lemmy.world 51 points 8 months ago

Fuck Muhammed he a bitch ass

[-] bus_go_fast@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago

Muslims treat Mohammed as a special human. They say they don't, but they do. Doesn't seem consistent.

[-] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 8 points 8 months ago

No, there is a middle ground between "he was not just human but also divine" and "he was not in any way special". They consider him the most perfect human that has ever lived. They make no secret of this. They bless his name every time they use it. They have rules around his image and his reputation. And they make no secret of this. If you've interpreted "he's not divine" as "he's not special", that's your upbringing coming through, not theirs.

And no I don't need a list of all the abhorrent things Muhammed and his followers have done.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago

Don't they have a rule against idolizing people? How do they not consider their treatment of Muhammad as idolizing him?

[-] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 2 points 8 months ago

It's a quite literal rule - idols and idolatry are things that have actual meaning in Abrahamic religions, and in the pagan religions that Islam supplanted at Mecca. See also the icons and iconoclastic conflict in the neighbouring Orthodox Christian tradition.

"Wow he's perfect" isn't idolatry in the literal sense of an actual physical idol object mean to be physical manifestation of, or place of residence of, a deity.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Is that why they ban all pictures/depictions of Muhammad? To avoid stepping over that line of idolizing him?

[-] Soulg@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

From how I've understood it, yes that's exactly why

[-] bus_go_fast@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

that’s your upbringing coming through, not theirs.

Wtf? What about my upbringing? They obviously idolize him.

Edit: and seriously, get a grip.

[-] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 1 points 8 months ago

He's talking about you conflating "divine" and "special".

[-] bus_go_fast@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Lol when did I say the word divine? I only said they treat him special.

[-] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 3 points 8 months ago

You didn't. But you seem to be under the impression that "they don't treat him special" when they absolutely do and make no pretense that they don't. They do deny his divinity, which is what you're thinking of. You're welcome for this helpful untangling of your own thoughts.

[-] bus_go_fast@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago
[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It does not present well if the prophet of God cannot take a curse without outrage.

I believe there is a tale in the One-Thousand-and-One Nights about the Caliph and a boy who mocks him. The Caliph is distraught, and the tale addresses this very scenario, citing the Koran.

I cannot speak to religious justifications for humility and suffering fools, but when gods and kings react disproportionately to provocation, their enemies surely watch and take note.

[-] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Kind of makes Muhammad sound like a bitch, to be honest.

[-] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 17 points 8 months ago

On my list of places to never go, prison for murdering an innocent young woman in a country where I'm a religious and ethnic minority is pretty much the top of the list

[-] No1@aussie.zone 10 points 8 months ago

I don't know, I think just focussing on not murdering anyone would probably be the best strategy.

It's pretty much the foundation of my approach to staying out of prison

[-] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 15 points 8 months ago

Good, dude can rot.

And also her dad, because he seems like a real racist piece of work.

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 7 points 8 months ago

Religion needs to be banned

[-] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 15 points 8 months ago

That's useless, it creates a persecution complex.

We need to expand laicism, though.

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

They should feel persecuted because I'm persecuting them.

Their fucked up beliefs have caused irreparable damage for millennia. They've attempted to purge other beliefs for millennia.

Fuck them all I'm sick of it.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago
[-] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

Purge beliefs, not people.

[-] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

That's laicist

[-] Zacryon@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago

Aye, if people really want to live in belief of some magical dreamworld, let them as long as they don't force their beliefs on others and don't hurt anyone (this includes psychological damage to their children for example).

[-] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 8 months ago

Ideally that would be doable. However, it's almost impossible that they don't damage someone with their bullshit.

[-] herrvogel@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I'm sure that will be a smashing success and won't cause any problems, like all the various attempts at banning alcohol.

[-] VarthDader@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Muhammad can go revenge himself

[-] poplargrove@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

Got a better source? That isnt a news website by any means.

[-] NIB@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Here is an article from a major greek newspaper(in greek), well i dont think they publish a newspaper anymore but it is a popular greek news site.

https://www.ethnos.gr/greece/article/289896/peristeriisobiaston23xronogiathdolofoniaths17xronhsnikoletasdenanagnoristhkanelafryntika

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