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I decided to take a peek at Reddit to see what kind of activity is happening, a good handful of the subreddits I am subscribed to are still super active with posts and commenters.

There's quite a few news articles on the front page regarding Spez and the blackouts, I am surprised those articles are even still up for people to see.

The comment section is filled with people saying how they should just kick the mods out of the dark Reddit's and take over, ofcourse these posts are heavily upvoted...

Perhaps there is some AI activity going on, I mean it's kind of easy to do in this day and age. You just prompt an army of AI bots to defend Reddit, and try to keep users engaged.

I am so happy I found Lemmy, and I am so happy that there is a comfortable level of activity. Sure it's only a small fraction of what Reddit is activity wise, but it's so much more hearty and welcoming.

Reddit has just turned into one big toxic mess. Lemmy reminds me of what Reddit used to be 10 years ago.

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[–] luminaree@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

It's funny reading posts that say something along the lines of "I've always used the reddit app and it's fine, I didn't even know there were third-party apps". I get this might be astroturfing or bots but if not, congrats on not having a clue, I guess.

[–] noodle@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago

It's probably not purely bots. My girlfriend is one of those people lol

She isn't tech literate and doesn't get things like FOSS or 3rd party. To her, the Official Redditβ„’ App is a mark of trust and safety. She doesn't use an adblocker (despite my protests) and just avoids services like Youtube where ads are unavoidable.

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[–] JDPoZ@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (21 children)

This may just an old interwebz man talking, but I'd say "Don't worry."

It's not a 1:1, but this is similar to what happened with Digg in the mid 2000s. I was there. I migrated from there to Reddit - specifically because Digg had decided to ignore its vocal user base and fundamentally change what the site was.

It ultimately resulted in this : this

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[–] Thalyssa@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (12 children)

They can't admit they're addicted. I was a daily Reddit user. Stopped going there once the blackout hits. And now, the subs I care about are still private. Good.

And somehow, I turned out fine.

[–] Cannacheques@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago

Addicted to reading comments, I can't say I'm any better lol

But I do my best to contribute in a positive manner, share bits and pieces of my journey or what I observe in others that I find funny or imagine would inspire good πŸ‘

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[–] smokinjoe@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

The lack of societal solidarity for the betterment of everyone is sad.

But that's ok, reddit was never going to die after this protest.

I think what took place was a successful test of what alternatives exist out in the wild.

Now it's up to those of us who migrated to post through the highs and lows of early adoption in order to encourage others to come and stick around when the next shitty move by Spez takes place.

For example, I migrated to Mastodon in late 2018 during an initial surge. And over the years tried to keep posting content so that when the next migration took place when Elon took the reigns, people were able to possibly feel more at home.

This shit takes time. A lot of time. But the internet is a big place and there's plenty of opportunity for things to be better. We just can expect things to rush themselves

[–] xtremeownage@lemmyonline.com 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don't worry, it will become an even more toxic cesspool soon....

[–] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is the truth, when I heard they were trying to kick out the mods who were pushing the blackout, I knew that whoever is left after all of this is not going to be worth reading. Reddit massively underestimates the value the power users and mods give to the site for everyone else to use. Without them, the site is just a bunch of software trying to push ads on whoever stumbles on it.

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (18 children)

The comment section is filled with people saying how they should just kick the mods out of the dark Reddit’s and take over, ofcourse these posts are heavily upvoted…

Thing is, all the people in favor of the protest left Reddit. So now pro-Reddit content is being upvoted.

[–] cyanide@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Thing is, all the people in favor of the protest left Reddit.

Except the mods. Now they're getting abuse from those that didn't care about the protests.

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[–] thesoloist@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I've been on reddit for almost a decade and a half. Never have I seen so many users gilding pro corporate reddit/pro spez comments. It is almost always the former. It's very unusual and makes me a tad suspicious. I'm not sure if reddit has evolved into a platform overflowing with users that I truly don't synchronize with, or perhaps reddit is virtually augmenting these posts/comments, increasing bot posts to augment activity, etc. I accept either or and for that and many other reasons I have contently moved on from the platform. It's just not for me anymore and has been fracturing into an environment that lost its luster. Too many common folk have saturated the platform, too many bots, too much corporate shenanigans, too many miserable users, too little civility, too much ignorance and a lack of analytical literacy. The fediverse has given a breath of fresh air and something of nostalgia from the early days of reddit. I do think this is the way forward with time and I'm here for it.

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[–] GreenCrush@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I mean, is it out of the realm of possibility that bootlicking comments are those made by Reddit themselves? Comment sections can quickly become echo chambers, I'm sure reddit knows this and uses that to their advantage.

Not to say that there aren't plenty of addicts and general idiots all over reddit.

[–] Kissing_Ash@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

People have been saying it but were being ignored for weeks: this blackout thing will not work. And we were correct. It was a useless attempt to try and win over the majority.

Plenty of people use the main app and are the majority of users, and it is what it is. The ones who care about the Reddit API fiasco should move away. That’s the only valid move.

I’ve done it, and everyone else who care should. Leave the ones who are fine with Reddit on Reddit.

[–] sudneo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I see the blackout as a nudge to overcome addiction. A few days or weeks without content, and people start looking around. The the network effect (downward) will make the rest.

I want to specify that I have no interest in all the userbase of reddit moving to Lemmy, but just an initial influx of people who care will help making it reach a critical mass. After that, reddit can even reopen fully, at that point it won't matter.

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[–] sibachian@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It would appear it's mostly bots, probably paid for by reddit (or interested groups) to muddle the waters.

I have seen countless posts trying to discredit the fediverse, how it won't work because it isn't financially backed (completely ignoring that email is still a thing), or how Mastodon apparently failed. On top of that, there are tons of comments in the threads for subs that went dark where the commenter argues "all this does is hurt the sub". but when you look into the commenter, they have no previous history of being active in these subs at all.

But, i've seen this kind of activity all over reddit for the past 2 years. Especially when something unpopular is happening. There is a lot of the same type of crap you see during the presidential elections of the US. A lot of fake comments, posts, and statistics, and other things to try steer the public opinion in an engineered direction.

[–] Very_Bad_Janet@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

how Mastodon apparently failed

Saw this on my Mastodon home feed:

12,484,940 accounts
+2,493 in the last hour
+66,136 in the last day
+273,430 in the last week

Four time-based charts

Upper blue area: Number of Mastodon users
Upper cyan area: Hourly increases of number of users
Lower orange area: Number of active instances
Lower yellow area: Thousand toots per hour

For current figures please read the text of this post https://mastodon.social/@mastodonusercount/110554252061792575

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[–] Pilirin@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

lmao the claim that telegram is failing, and i'll admit right here that i don't use it and am not interested in doing so, but it's going stronger than ever now that the loudmouthed chuds that made it popular have gotten bored and the hardcore nerds are all who are left. telegram ain't dying any time soon, i'll say that much.

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[–] atypicaloddity@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Don't worry too much about it. There's still going to be people using Reddit. You're never going to convince everybody about everything. My parents still use Facebook.

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[–] Hhffggshn@lemmy.click 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I'm shocked by the content I've seen over there. I know quite a few reddit users IRL and none of them support what spez is doing. I think you are right about AI being involved in some if the posts.

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[–] TheUtopianCat@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)
[–] CoffeeBlood91@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is not reddit... Lol

I realized that after I posted it. I was able to fix it in the title even! This is so much better than Reddit.

[–] TheUtopianCat@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

It's great that you can edit titles here.

[–] ShadowRunner@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is not reddit... Lol

You know what, reddit was filled with people who got upset when others tried to help them improve. Let's not take that with us here.

I, for one, am grateful when others point out a mistake because it helps me to become better. That's the mentality we should encourage here.

[–] CoffeeBlood91@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

I agree with you, I was mainly just making a joke. It's when people point out a spelling mistake, without actually commenting on what's being said as well. But at the same time feedback is feedback, it's great building material.

[–] reflex@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

It's peek, not peak.

Piqued my peak withat peek.

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[–] KillaBeez@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It blows my mind that r/Apple decided to cave after all of that.

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[–] Ragnell@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

From the fediverse side of things, good. The bootlickers can stay there until the whole thing gets shutter, people with sense can come here.

[–] lixus98@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (10 children)

I hope these people stay there, I like the community that moved to Lemmy/kbin as they are friendly and chill.

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[–] positiveWHAT@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Please crosspost to c/general@lemmy.world or c/reddit@lemmy.world or c/reddit@lemmy.ml instead of here. This is

intended for posts about the Lemmy.world server. That means announcements from the team, issues you see etc.

Also mod @sunspider@lemmy.world can you change the name of this community to Lemmy.world - Server or something?

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