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"Bernie's supporters have been very, very damaging to him, and it's really frustrating to see and experience. They don't realize how influential they are. It's frustrating to feel like they are hurting him," Ocasio-Cortez said in the midst of the 2020 primary, according to the book. "I feel like Warren is scooping up LGBT, progressives, women, and progressives of color because of how they isolate."

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She also worried that the behavior of Sanders's supporters were "forcing an unnecessary choice between class analysis and race analysis" through their "behavior, not so much policy."

Ocasio-Cortez made those comments as she mulled whether to endorse Sanders's 2020 campaign, even though she had worked as an organizer on his 2016 campaign.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ocasio-cortez-bernie-bros-reactionary-left-wing-book-2023-12

It's socialism or barbarism dawg

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[-] CrimsonSage@hexbear.net 121 points 8 months ago

All the exit polling I saw said otherwise, Bernie won all groups(but especially poc and queer people) below 55, while biden swooped up the Olds both black and white, and Warren was left scraping by on a fraction of the college cracker professional set.

[-] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 94 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yes, because the "BernieBro" thing was mostly an online thing. In other words, that was just very online Hillary/Biden/Warren people crying because young people cared more about another candidate. But it was made into this huge issue by the mainstream media, I am betting that it received more TV time in 2016 and 2020 than the Iraq war and climate change combined.

[-] davel@hexbear.net 63 points 8 months ago

Is the Bernie Bro in the room with you right now, Hillary?

Just a made up demographic to discredit as a proxy for discrediting all Bernie supporters.

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[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 77 points 8 months ago

Black people ain't having no Bernie

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 73 points 8 months ago

Thanks for bringing the mental image of this photo back to my memory.

[-] BlueMagaChud@hexbear.net 67 points 8 months ago

this fucking potemkin barbershop kills me

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 55 points 8 months ago

Just everything is so odd:

Jerseys hung up on wall via plastic hangers

Could they not afford a cheap poster frame?

Spiderman and Pan movie posters

Not my first choice, but sure

DVD cases hung on the wall

What the actual fuck. Let's see what's here: capeshit, sure; random action slop (Meg, Hobbs & Shaw, Equalizer 2), uhhh alright; PETER RABBIT, wot.

MLM poster on the wall (It Works)

tito-laugh

Busted old couches

One guy who's getting a haircut just randomly near the exit

[-] AlkaliMarxist@hexbear.net 45 points 8 months ago

I was gonna say, every barbershop I've been in has had the barber chairs lined up, facing a wall with a mirror on it. Not in the middle of the room, on a rug, surrounded by sofas.

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[-] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 56 points 8 months ago

I love when people do blackface on social media. It's so cool and not at all weird to roleplay as a minority to try and own other white people.

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[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 57 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Didn’t Warren get like third place in her home state?

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 47 points 8 months ago

Yes. And it was at that point only a three person race

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 55 points 8 months ago

yep, AOC is just a warren-ite college cracker professional set-type so she doesn't see this pattern

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 39 points 8 months ago

She just "feels" like everyone else should agree with white college cracker professional set.

Her 6month bartending gig is stilen valor

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 45 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Working a bit during college doesn't making someone working class either, nor does being "poor" during college and eating ramen make one poor. These are basically just mini-poverty tourisms and a hazing period for the middle class, not legitimate class differences. The precarity doesn’t exist, they have safety nets to fall back on (drop out and live with their parents at their huge house).

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[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 48 points 8 months ago

Yeah in the middle of the 2020 primary there was definitely discussion of Warren getting polite Bernie hand-me-downs. I can't blame anyone for "feeling" like that during the midst of 2020 - there was a concentrated media effort to make that case and propaganda/advertising actually do work. It turns out, real people didn't actually behave that way though. If aoc is still concerned about that now or anytime after Warren washed out then she's a dumb ass but who cares if an electoral politician was aware of and in some way responded to electoral political punditry in 2020

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[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 107 points 8 months ago

I feel like Warren is scooping up LGBT, progressives, women, and progressives of color because of how they isolate.

Did it feel that way??? Cause it definitely was not that way in reality

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 48 points 8 months ago

Got her ass

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[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 102 points 8 months ago

Hey remember when Obama told trans people to shut up so dems could get more right-wing votes?

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 100 points 8 months ago

I used to support universal healthcare but then someone was mean to me online

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 62 points 8 months ago

We now have no choice but to be racist

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 79 points 8 months ago

Didn't she literally do a show with Hasan?

Like, is there anyone that is more of a Bernie Bro than Hasan was? If I was going to describe a Bernie Bro to anyone back when that election was happening I would have pointed at that himbo.

[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 59 points 8 months ago

She was just being a very good politician.

It was good exposure for her brand and she was quick to capitalize on that younger generation audience.

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 54 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

maybe this is a power play to eliminate Bernie as the face of the social democratic movement in the US and become its leader in a machiavellian way

lol, but its probably just her calling for "civility"

[-] AlkaliMarxist@hexbear.net 53 points 8 months ago

I think she's realised that she won't go into the next election season as a progressive hero, but as a sell out, so she's trying to get out in front of it.

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[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 78 points 8 months ago

AHHHHHHH THE WHOLE THING WAS A SMEAR, BERNIE SUPPORTERS WERE SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN TO BE THE LEAST RUDE OF ANY OF THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES' PRIMARY VOTERS

DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB

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[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 77 points 8 months ago

So she believed the media hype about Warren during the primaries. AOC's peak popularity was during the Trump years when being a snarky Twitter reply guy got you attention. Early interviews after her win revealed how big of a lib she was with how she defended Obama and allowed herself to be restrained just by having a fellow Puerto Rican congresswoman talk to her.

She was kind of promising early on with the Green New Deal and fiery speeches, but Pelosi putting the muzzle on and the January 6 insurrection was all it took for her to shut up and sit down. Now she gets ratio'd by Elon on Twitter and continues to have terrible foreign policy takes.

She's the type of American liberal poc that is all race issues at the most shallow level and will talk a big game about economics while continuing to play the neoliberal game behind the scene.

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[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 71 points 8 months ago

Some Bernie Bros made fun of me for voting to fund the Iron Dome so now I no longer believe in social democracy.

[-] M68040@hexbear.net 71 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The whole respectability politics thing makes me actively want what's worst for the US and Americans at large sometimes. What, everyone else get to be boorish shitheads and i can't even fling a turd or two back at them?

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[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 70 points 8 months ago

She bartended for 6 month for the photo op.

That's what real stolen valor looks like

[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 46 points 8 months ago

Remembering when a bunch of right-wingers ended up boosting that propaganda because they thought "she's just a bartender!" was some kind of own

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[-] the_kid@hexbear.net 68 points 8 months ago

AOC is Nancy Pelosi, I've been saying it for years. a lauded """progressive""" in her youth, only to become ultimately entrenched in the demonic system, make a lot of money in it, and defend it.

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 66 points 8 months ago

50-60+ year old AOC is going to be so fucking cursed

[-] the_kid@hexbear.net 53 points 8 months ago

step 1. she's going to leave her loser normal husband and marry some Blackrock hedge fund ghoul

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[-] Nationalgoatism@hexbear.net 67 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Lmao, fraternal order of the Bernard brethren strike again, this time striking fear into the hearts of sellout AOC (an even bigger sellout than cowardly Bernie)

[-] BlueMagaChud@hexbear.net 67 points 8 months ago

through their "behavior, not so much policy."

ah, you see, the vibes analysis results portray you as a soyjack AyyyyyOC

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 66 points 8 months ago

Good news! We're not his supporters anymore! gui-better

[-] wombat@hexbear.net 62 points 8 months ago

social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 59 points 8 months ago

It's either the dirtbag left who donated time, money, sweat, and sanity to get you elected, or the Jan 6 fascist chuds. Which would you rather have breathing down your neck?

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[-] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 55 points 8 months ago

I feel like Warren is scooping up LGBT, progressives, women, and progressives of color because of how they isolate

[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 44 points 8 months ago

This brought back memories of that viral photo when the hotel cleaning ladies in Las Vegas came out to caucus for Bernie.

Moments like this will never happen again in America’s electoral history. The working class has been betrayed. Bernie Sanders has betrayed all of them.

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[-] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 54 points 8 months ago

the-democrat "That bastard! We can never forgive him for briefly getting people believing that American politics could be more than just a race to the bottom of "the lesser of two evils". And that they could demand that politicians occasionally think about the well being of the people. He cost Hillary the election!"

[-] Finger@hexbear.net 47 points 8 months ago

no more half measures walter

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[-] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 46 points 8 months ago

Brethren of the fraternal order of St. Bernard

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[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 44 points 8 months ago
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[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 43 points 8 months ago

Liberals like AOC/Bernie that larp as more progressive than they really are, are so fucking cowardly. Their supporters are worse because they're convinced they're the only ones who are right about fixing the rotten capitalist system.

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[-] Blottergrass@hexbear.net 40 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

These people got a little bit of pushback from the left once in an entire generation and they completely lost their minds over it. Also, how are you going to "defeat fascism" if you're this soft?

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[-] Mokey@hexbear.net 40 points 8 months ago

American politics stupid

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