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Ukraine is set to field its first officially codified domestically built grenade launcher armed ground robot, after the Ministry of Defense approved the Droid NW 40 robotic combat system for service with the country’s Defense Forces, developer DevDroid said on December 23.

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[–] EnderLaw@lemmy.world 17 points 8 hours ago (5 children)
  1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.

  2. A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

  3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 5 points 2 hours ago

Asimov wasn’t any more of a legislator than Dante was a theologian

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 hours ago

I believe this is only for fully autonomous robots. These are human controlled, more like an rc car with an upgrade.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 7 points 3 hours ago
  1. A robot may not damage shareholder value or, through inaction, allow shareholder value to come to harm.
[–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 20 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think it will be programmed that way.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The writer of the laws himself made his career by writing an entire book series with stories about pointing out where the laws break down.

[–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

In this case I think they're broken down immediately because they won't be used.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
  1. Spend months in a meeting room with everything from ethicists and philosopher to machine learning specialists and developers to figure out each nuance of the rules

  2. or program it to kill everything until the batteries run down and send it out within the hour

The answer in a war is always the second option.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 1 points 6 minutes ago

Screamers. Check it out.

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

There are loops. Killing a few Russian invaders will prevent many Ukrainian killings.

There's at least one story I can remember about that.

[–] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] lornosaj@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

The Foundation adaptation on AppleTV. Where, famously, spoilers

Tap for spoilerDemerzel, this robot in the gif, kills lots of people by exploring the loophole that let robots commit genocide in supposed compliance with the 3 laws.

[–] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Holy shit. Random, I know but you just convinced me to check this out.

[–] ngdev@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 minutes ago* (last edited 8 minutes ago)

the show is solid

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

They also explore this on I, Robot