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[-] superfes@lemmy.world 94 points 10 months ago

Both of these horrors look like those Walmart one pan recipes where you dump a 4lb bag of cheese on some noodles with some kind of broth and cook for an hour hoping what comes out is edible...

[-] GroteStreet@aussie.zone 41 points 10 months ago

I still find it wild that Americans call macaroni and lasagne "noodles".

[-] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

I find it weird that anyone has an issue with that.

[-] superfes@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

You're right, I should have said pasta, feel free to shame me, I don't call penne, macaroni, etc., noodles e.g. but I certainly said noodles above.

[-] Nachorella 26 points 10 months ago

Never feel any shame, they're all noodles and they're all pasta.

[-] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago

My beloved wife still thinks it's all the same and we are crazy for having so many different names and shapes for 面条

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[-] Noodle07@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

It's wild but convenient for my username

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I've never called macaroni noodles, but I do call lasagna that. It's just really wide noodles.

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[-] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 58 points 10 months ago

Bechemel dammit your Mac and cheese needs to start with a bechemel

[-] AHorseWithNoNeigh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 10 months ago

I had no idea it was called Béchamel, lol. I always referred to it all as roux as you really just add more to the base sauce. The more you know...

[-] Nachorella 47 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Roux is flour and butter. Bechamel is a roux + milk. Mornay is a bechamel + cheese.

[-] UsernameIsTooLon@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago

So you're telling me it's a Macaroni Mornay this entire time?

[-] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

And a Macaroni Afternoon too!

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Macaroni good night. 🚪 🛫

[-] Nachorella 5 points 10 months ago

Doesn't quite have the same ring to it, but I think so.

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Béchamel and roux are different, but only by an ingredient

[-] grue@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

It's possible to have a good mac and cheese without bechamel (e.g. by using Velveeta instead), but those two pictured ain't it.

[-] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 10 months ago

I don't think you're wrong, but if we're talking about winning the right for the Thanksgiving meal, you know I'm using at least 3 kinds of cheese and some of that is gonna be Velveeta. But some ain't, so, bechemel.

I'm open to debate on the breadcrumb topping, but, personally, I'm partial to it.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago

Usually, processed cheeses have enough extra sodium citrate (or other emulsifier) to help make a smooth melt from anywhere to half the processed cheese weight up to equal weight.

Mind you, there's still the tradition factor. Making the bechemel gives a different taste and texture that citrate. So, even if you decided to just keep the sodium citrate around by itself (it's cheap and easy to get), it won't be the same end result in terms of what people expect of a good, homemade mac n cheese.

I'm okay with bread crumb topping, but I prefer a good shredded cheese across the top so that it gets a little crust to it by the end of the bake. The topping is usually going to be cheddar, or a cheddar/American mix (not Velveeta, and only an actual cheese American as opposed to fake), with cheddar, Colby, and either swiss or muenster as the preferred inside cheeses. Maybe add some jack or pepper jack for the right crowd. Can even crumble up some bleu in the mix instead/as well.

But the exact cheeses don't matter as much as that base bechemel. As long as it's smooth, the cheese sauce is going to be the right texture.

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[-] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

I’m open to debate on the breadcrumb topping, but, personally, I’m partial to it.

For me, it depends whether the mac and cheese in question is oven-type or stovetop-type.

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Fry some panko in garlic butter as a topping when doing high effort as opposed to a simple one for just the wife and I.

I’m partial to the debate on spicy in it

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[-] Gork@lemm.ee 14 points 10 months ago

Mmm pasteurized process cheese product with a vaguely cheese-like flavor

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[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 39 points 10 months ago

As a white girl in a culinary wasteland, this hurts me on a level that my English ancestors can feel. My favourite food is plain unsalted potatoes, and yet this abomination is offensive to me.

I’m certain serving either of these would be considered a war crime. I’m actually confident if we offered these choices to insurgent armies as the only alternative to a truce, we’d have peace on earth.

What I’m saying is both of these crimes against pasta are soul-crushingly awful. Jesus wept.

[-] meliaesc@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Ok, so plain unsalted potatoes are fine, but as your favorite food??

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 16 points 10 months ago
[-] Holyginz@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

At least you own it. Plus, makes it easy to have your favorite food whenever you want it.

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[-] Boomslang@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago

Its green. WHY IS IT GREEN

[-] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 13 points 10 months ago

Their camera is as bad as their mac and cheese.

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[-] janAkali@lemmy.one 31 points 10 months ago

WTF is wrong with americans? Can't they eat normal somewhat healthy food? Use real cheese and just grate it on top of some hot macaroni, damn it.

[-] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 55 points 10 months ago

Us real Americans make our own cheese with melted plastic and yellow food coloring. We don't need that commie dairy shit.

[-] Pipoca@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

American cheese isn't made of plastic in the sense of polymers, it is plastic in the sense of being easily deformed or molded.

At its most basic, American cheese is literally just cheese, water and sodium phosphate. It's "not cheese", but in the sense that meatloaf isn't meat and mayonnaise isn't eggs.

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[-] AltheaHunter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 10 months ago

WTF is wrong with you??? You just grate cheese over pasta and call it a day? The cheese should be melted into a sauce (I start with a bechamel and then add cheese), then mixed into the macaroni. I prefer to bake it with breadcrumbs on top after for some textural variety.

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[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 22 points 10 months ago
[-] Threeme2189@lemm.ee 42 points 10 months ago
[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

Holy fuck you got me lmfao.

[-] Threeme2189@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago

Happy to make a fellow human laugh 😃

[-] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 14 points 10 months ago

That's not exactly healthy either and but it tastes like it should be. Mac n cheese should be creamy AND cheesy and delicious. What you are suggesting sounds plain and dry, I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole unless I was a guest at your house. But you can be damn sure I'd tell everyone you can't make Mac n cheese and I definitely wouldn't trust you with dinner ever again.

You start with a roux add a little milk then cheese then milk and again cheese. Keep doing that until it's cheesey/creamy enough. Good idea to add salt and some seasonings as well.

[-] UmeU@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

I the best way to do it is to cook the kraft slices in hotdog water, then add the noodle until plump.

[-] Gork@lemm.ee 21 points 10 months ago

How can you mess up Mac and Cheese that badly?

[-] Bonehead@kbin.social 13 points 10 months ago

By thinking it requires only 2 ingredients.

[-] midget247@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

It's clearly got three. Imagine forgetting the And

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[-] Threeme2189@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago
  1. Mac
  2. Cheese

Yup, makes sense.

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