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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by ONRYO@feddit.ch to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

Mine is light and L from death note . They were potrayed as some kinda of super genius characters but in reality it felt like every other characters shared one braincell and light and L were average .

EDIT : I have come to the conclusion that so may of lemmings didn't get what my post was about . I don't care if a charecter is an asshole or isn't very good in other aspects of their life.

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[-] Ejh3k@lemmy.world 74 points 6 months ago
[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 16 points 6 months ago
[-] HollandJim@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

True, but he was a rich opportunist with good timing, so that made him look like a genius, as opposed to the serial fabulist and racist POS he ended up being.

[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago

He’s been portrayed as one in the media though

[-] JCreazy@midwest.social 5 points 6 months ago

A lot of people sure think he is though.

[-] scytale@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

portrayed as a super genius in media

[-] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 74 points 6 months ago

Big bang theory, just, shake a stick

[-] meyotch@slrpnk.net 9 points 6 months ago

Specifically Sheldon for me. I was in grad school when that show was first aired and I hated it instantly and thoroughly. I was already aware that academia is an asshole-factory and couldn’t enjoy it.

[-] livus@kbin.social 42 points 6 months ago

The crew of the Prometheus.

Really, Weyland, are you sure these are the best people you could hire for this task?

[-] HerrVorragend@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

Tried to watch the movie last week, but I only made it halfway through. The stupidity by almost everyone was just too much to bear.

[-] JCreazy@midwest.social 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

All I can think of is the whole stupid running from the falling tower scene.

[-] Slovene@feddit.nl 10 points 6 months ago

The Prometheus school of running away from things. ding

[-] FaceDeer@kbin.social 36 points 6 months ago

In the original trilogy of novels by Timothy Zahn, Grand Admiral Thrawn is a legitimate strategic genius who keeps winning until the heroes manage to squeak out a final victory by finding exactly the right flaw in his plans.

In the Ahsoka TV series, Thrawn mumbles vapid syllogisms that only sound profound if you listen to the tone of voice instead of the words. He constantly makes basic Evil Overlord mistakes and oversights, and only achieves the barest minimum success in the end through plot armor and luck.

It's like they're two different characters.

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[-] snek@lemmy.world 30 points 6 months ago

Sherlock played by Cumberbatch. He looked like a stuckup asshole who I'd never trust with a baby or pet.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 23 points 6 months ago
[-] snek@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

When he had all those nicotine patches on him, my only thought was "what a fucking idiot".

[-] seaweedsheep@literature.cafe 14 points 6 months ago

Hbomberguy made a video about it. There's no nuance or foreshadowing in that Sherlock. He exists just so Moffat can feel smart that he knows something the audience can't possibly know yet, nor does he give them a chance to figure it out.

[-] Sertou@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

I can’t dispute that, but in fairness, there are quite a few of the original Sherlock Holmes stories where the reader couldn’t be expected to solve the mystery. The Adventure of the Red Headed League is one such, as I recall, though it has been quite a while since I read it.

For me the fun of the show is in the chemistry between actors and in the development of Sherlock’s character as someone who discovers his own humanity and eventually forms connections with those around him.

[-] GlitterInfection@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

Rick from Rick and Morty. Though I feel like the show bounces back and forth from making it clear that he's an idiot who causes all of his own problems and worshipping him as a god.

[-] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I said Jimmy Neutron for my answer, but I think Rick faces a similar problem.

He's a genius when it comes to engineering/academics, but otherwise he's a fool with an overinflated ego that won't let him acknowledge that - I mean hell the Ricks literally made the central finite curve so they didn't have to acknowledge the possibility of someone smarter than themselves out there.

Similar to Neutron, most of his problems come from him trying to engineer his way out of personal issues, or making overcomplicated solutions to simple problems that end up backfiring.

[-] ONRYO@feddit.ch 14 points 6 months ago

He's intelligent and an asshole but that doesn't make him less intelligent

[-] GlitterInfection@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago

He is proficient with magic technology.

He's an idiot when it comes to literally everything else. He does frequently overcome his idiocy in other areas by using his magic technology to dominate the situation but it backfires just as often as not. He thinks he's better than everyone else, and in one powerful way he is, so he uses that to compensate.

Anything to do with people or reality not filtered through an alcoholic depression lens it's very clear he doesn't know how to handle it, and that includes basic self care.

The problem is that a lot of idiot savant tech-heads see themselves in him but miss the constant intentional criticism of his character.

[-] ONRYO@feddit.ch 6 points 6 months ago

Yeah i guess that tracks

[-] phorq@lemmy.ml 24 points 6 months ago

I think it's well established that Dr. House is wrong way more often than he's right... I still find it entertaining though.

[-] CynicusRex@kbin.social 18 points 6 months ago

He's mostly right in the end. Being right instantly would make episodes last 5 minutes...

[-] Alto@kbin.social 26 points 6 months ago

Every episode of house is basically

Patient gets sick
House is wrong at first
Everyone is wrong for a while
They think they're right, but they're wrong
House has a random epiphany, steals $50 from Wilson, and saves the patient

[-] IMongoose@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Maybe I should watch House. I love Lucifer and every episode is basically

Lucifer has a problem
Someone else has a problem
Lucifer makes his problem worse
Someone else makes their problem better
Lucifer uses the solution from someone to make his problem better, usually after making an epiphany quip
Lucifer learns nothing

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[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 4 points 6 months ago

That wouldn't even be so bad if he weren't so god-damned smug about it.

[-] ONRYO@feddit.ch 4 points 6 months ago

Hmm never watched that series due to people saying it fell of during later series

[-] CynicusRex@kbin.social 10 points 6 months ago

It never lost quality. House M.D. is still in my top 3 favourite shows.

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[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago
[-] Sertou@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

Elizabeth Keen in Black List. Writers constantly told us how brilliant and special she was, then showed her acting like a dimwitted, hormonal teen.

[-] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

There's some old quote about you can't write a character any smarter than you are.

[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

James Bond

While he's not exactly potrayed as super genious, he's still supposed to be an extremely compenet secret agent yet the only thing he seems competent at is having an extremely good luck. The only reason he's still alive is because the villains don't kill him the first moment they get the chance but instead they always need to deliver this monoloque before executing him which is what causes him to then eventually get away and kill you instead.

Like how many of the movies start by him just naively walking into the enemy compound armed with pistol and wearing a suit while practising zero stealth and then getting caught by NPC security guard. If this is how you operate then how the fuck havent you been killed already?

[-] solrize@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

The novels were way better than the movies except for a few of the early movies that followed the novels closely. The other movies were crap.

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I agree, but having watched all Bond movies recently. Early movies Bond is a rapist. It ruined the whole two first films for me. And on top of that, the fight scenes are goofy and badly choreographed. As they progress, Bond transitions to a less rapey vibe into more of a Casanova, and the action scenes gain budget, the fight scenes increase in quality significantly and the plot morphs into the stereotypical spy superagent clichés we know today. The misogyny doesn't go away until the Daniel Craig era though.

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[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 months ago

In Stargate Atlantis, Elizabeth Weir is supposed to be some world-class diplomatic genius that has a resume as long as her elbow on earth.

She spends the first two seasons squabbling over the leadership position with Shepard, dealing with petty dissent from the scientists on the expedition, doesn't manage to resolve a single conflict peacefully and she violates several basic human rights

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

She sounds like a realistic portrayal of current real life diplomats.

[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 14 points 6 months ago

Anyone on Doctor Who. There's a universal war going on, and you have so many decisions made by characters that don't make sense but are accepted as barriers anyways.

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[-] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 12 points 6 months ago

Jimmy Neutron. Almost all of his problems came from him trying to cheat his way out of something and/or making overcomplicated solutions to simple problems that inevitably backfire because of some simple flaw he never thought about.

Academically, he's a genius, but his overinflated ego prevents him from seeing that he ain't all that smart when it comes to the real world.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 months ago

Welcome to academia. I see you've visited before

[-] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

Sam Altman. Just another power hungry a.hole

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[-] variants@possumpat.io 10 points 6 months ago

The joker, well from movie to movie. In the dark knight he is cunning and is like a genius then in the movie joker he is just an ass hole

[-] ONRYO@feddit.ch 5 points 6 months ago

I don't think he is an asshole in joker movie as far as i can see all the people he killed were assholes. But i guess in the dark knight he was an asshole

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[-] Behaviorbabe@kbin.social 8 points 6 months ago

Honestly many of them. But that may be the flaw of being written by people who aren’t as smart as the characters they’re trying to portray. Or the target audience has to also remain interested. Another aspect of this is many of those who are very smart are not these extrovert characters tv audiences would be interested in. It’s the whole big bang theory problem.

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 8 points 6 months ago

Not really that he was portrayed as a genius but Ted Mosby in How I Met Your Mother is kind of a dick, he's selfish and keeps pursuing girls even after they say no. Still love the show though it's miles better than friends.

[-] DrMango@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

So true. I was watching this on a whim recently and noticed Ted is just an incomprehensibly annoying human being. This guy constantly ignores good advice because wHaT aBoUt TrUe LoVe and is constantly dragging his so-called friends into his shenanigans and inevitable failures. Also he's a bad friend to pretty much all of the other central characters and will constantly turn them down or ignore their needs in his relentless pursuit to find a girlfriend. Even Barney, the supposed sex hound, frequently makes time for his friends and genuinely wants to see them have a good time. Not Ted. Ted is a selfish bastard who thinks one "grand gesture" can make up for any transgression, so he let's minor transgressions build until he has to make a grand gesture to smooth things over. That guy is toxic.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago
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