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[-] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 77 points 5 months ago

This one seems to exceed some threshold for me. The ones that try to buy cars with nonexistent money are bad, but sort of pass as misguided. But this seems like premeditated theft. He went to a rental agency, intending to keep it.

[-] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 73 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Bro, he had all the right forms. And recorded trust. Why couldn’t they just let him steal it? Some things just don’t make sense.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Such a full caps thing to say.

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Clearly they haven't read Article 4.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 months ago

I'm kind of shocked he had a valid drivers license that allowed him to rent it in the first place

[-] wjrii@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

Just the natural progression. Enterprise should seek their funding from the back taxes the Corporation of the United States owes him.

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 5 months ago
[-] Vorticity@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

That is wild! The craziest part is that he was able to convince a court that he had a right to live in the hotel for free indefinitely. If he hadn't tried to pull the "I own this now" shit, he could have lived rent free in Manhattan forever from the sounds of things.

This nutjob actually found a real loophole and exploited it, then shot himself in the foot by getting greedy. I assume he's been evicted at this point.

[-] derpgon@programming.dev 6 points 4 months ago

What the actual fuck. He successfully got the room for indefinite time, because he used a loophole, and the court agreed? Insane.

[-] Norgur@fedia.io 43 points 5 months ago

Is "recorded trust" him yelling"TRUST" into a microphone over and over?

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago

They believe that the government opens a secret trust in your name when you are born worth 2 million dollars, that you can charge your debt to through magical paperwork.

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago
[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Right? And they firmly believe it.

[-] Steve@startrek.website 9 points 5 months ago

What happens when you exceed the original $2M?

[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

I don't think any of them have thought that far ahead since no one has successfully charged a penny to these nonexistent trusts

[-] thedarkfly@feddit.nl 6 points 5 months ago

I'm confused. These people want nothing to do with government because they didn't consent to being born under its authority, right? And they want to tap into money that daddy government allegedly set aside for them?

On the other hand, I'm wondering if maybe all of this might be out of desperation in the broken debt system of the us? Or maybe they just want to cheat a system that they don't respect...

[-] Vorticity@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Honestly, don't look for consistent logic in the sov cit community. Your brain will break.

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[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

What are their sources for this malarkey?!

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 months ago

Maybe some sort of terribly misubderstood interpretation of the UN value of a human life? Best guess I got.

[-] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

I had heard it as a gross misunderstanding of what GDP means.

[-] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

"Gimme Dat Product"

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[-] Rusty@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 months ago
[-] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

What the fuck has been happening with these people? They used to just be weirdos that thought they could drive (travel) without a licence and didn't think they had to comply with a bunch of laws, but mostly administrative stuff. When did they morph into a group that's all about stealing stuff with magic paperwork?

I used to see them as a bunch of goofs that were mostly harmless, aside from things like driving without insurance. Now they're just a bunch of thieves trying to get over on anyone and everyone.

[-] Trashcan@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

It's not stealing, it's using "cheat codes"

They believe that life has cheat codes that only they know about.

Or some other middleeastern ppl in the magic land of of 'Srael knows about it, and the sov city ppl have figured it out and wants to be rich as well.

Or "I'm smart but not rich. How come they over the are rich but dumb? Makes no sense. Except CHEAT CODES"

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

They have honestly never been harmless. Sovcits are a movement borne out of white supremacists and have become a favourite of black extremist groups too. They can be quite violent.

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 5 months ago

Social media happened.

[-] odium@programming.dev 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Guys, I've sent a 1099a with ALL CAPS signed name at 45° angle to slow down the rotation of the earth so that I get longer nights for longer sleeps. But they just ghosted my corporate self. Any immediate remedy suggestions?

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Sometimes I give them bogus advice. I'm pretty good at it.

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

Oh you have to start screenshotting that.

I used to have a lot of fun with scam callers with a character named "Heinrich Licksumweiner" who insisted on being called "Heinie" a character simultaneously horribly offensive to both gay people and germans but it turns out that a lot of the Indian scam callers are SUPER homophobic.

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

I enjoyed this one that I composed. Sounds sovcitty.

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Last name is a giveaway. Gotta hide it just a tad more. Might I suggest the last name Shithead? Pronounced just like it's spelled (shi-thēd).

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

I would answer the phone with "Ja, zis is Heinrich Licksumweiner, who wants a little Heinie!?!" If they cant figure it out from that then Im about to have a lot of fun with a very dumb cunt.

[-] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

I might pay to subscribe to that.

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Should I post some? I think it's pretty sovcitty.

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[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Does that mean I can "buy" all of a sovcit 's belongings with fake money too? Supposing there is anything in their belongings that isn't stolen property, that is.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

No, you can "borrow" them and when you don't give it back, just ask to put it on your tab as a representative of Uncle Sam. Or something like that.

[-] andrewth09@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Why even buy them. Just take them and claim they are your legal salvage and if they want they can write an appeal to the Moorish naval courts.

[-] Norgur@fedia.io 23 points 5 months ago

I love how they expect

a) their “findings” to be secret and suppressed so they are the only ones to have “discovered” it b) some random clerk at Enterprise to be able to process their secret paperwork

If the clerk at Enterprise knew that we all can just splurge without any repercussions because of secret knowledge… why do you think that clerk brought his own, sad, reheated microwave meal to work today instead of devouring Surf&Turf Wagyu, eh?

[-] FancyPantsFIRE@lemm.ee 18 points 5 months ago

I can’t believe these amateurs. He clearly forgot to file a Declaration of Impending Balance Surrender.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

He didn't even say it was without prejudice!

[-] Red_October@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

They really seem to think that every business out there has just overlooked whatever secret loophole these SovCit idiots think allows them to just take whatever they want. Apparently a form 1099A is for the transfer of abandoned property, and 1099C is for dismissing debt.

So it looks like this smoothbrain thought that the car rented to them was abandoned by the rental company, and they could also just... sign a paper that makes their own debt go away.

I love how the SovCits also always seem to mention that they've never heard back from anyone who successfully pulled off this little stunt, as though that's no sort of hint that it doesn't actually work that way.

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

They mention this EVERY time, and are utterly bewildered by the fact that it didn't work for them. I've never seen anything like it. I realize there are sovcit "gurus" on Telegram and such that tell them this, but they never seem to learn from one another and their failures. It's wild.

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[-] CAVOK@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Wth is a 1099A and 1099C? Is that supposed to mean something?

[-] BedInspector@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago

I just looked this up and they are actual gvernment forms you're supposed to fill out if your business acquires property (A) and to discharge debt (C). So I guess they think these forms somehow allow them to magically steal stuff.

Here's a pdf from the IRS site: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1099ac.pdf

[-] CAVOK@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Thanks.

Must be exhausting dealing with these people.

[-] zurohki@aussie.zone 8 points 5 months ago

IIRC they use the discharging debt one to discharge debt that other people hold over them. So they borrow money and then try to forgive their own debt.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 4 months ago

I submitted my W2 to the IRS and they said I still owe taxes.

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