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Basic blender went bad (motor ran but spindle wasn't rotating). I wanted to disassemble to see if it could be repaired. Three of the four screws were Phillips head. I had to cut the casing open in order to discover why I couldn't unscrew the fourth. It was a slotted spanner.

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[-] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 89 points 6 months ago
[-] venoft@lemmy.world 63 points 6 months ago

Just a basic security screw. It's so kids (and people who don't know enough about repairing appliances to know about security screws) don't disassemble the dangerous machine.

[-] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 36 points 6 months ago

Though it should be noted this does raise the bar above most people, especially on a budget, single use tools are hardly ever worth it.

Arguably more dangerous things have easier screws too, like electricity outlets

[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 months ago

Grinding a notch into a flathead screwdriver is annoying but it'll still work fine as a flathead even afterwards. I would probably just grind the bulge out of the screw though.

[-] lemmyhavesome@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

In this case the screw was at the bottom of a narrow slot, and they only found it after breaking things.

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[-] Dultas@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

But they're in no way single use.

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[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 14 points 6 months ago

It's a blender... As long as it's unplugged you'll be fine.

[-] some_guy 10 points 6 months ago
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[-] HaywardT 52 points 6 months ago

Harbor freight has sets of tamper resistant bits. They are also handy for regular Allen and torx heads.

[-] ThrowawaySobriquet@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

This right here. I bought their security bit set and, true, I've only ever opened the case three times in the few years I've had it, but in those three times nothing else would have worked without a more destructive solution

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 months ago

Here’s the link, it’s helped me out a bunch of times in the 6-8 years I’ve had it.

2 notes though

  • these are hard cheese grade metal. Don’t plan on removing any high torque, Rusty or partly stripped screws with them, they’ll either break or round off.
  • if the screw is too recesses down a narrow hole, these won’t help. The bit holders are too wide to fit in. I have a Honeywell Air Purifier with one security Torx that is 3-4” down a hole that this set failed me on.
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[-] lettruthout@lemmy.world 40 points 6 months ago

It's called an "H-type" head. I found some tools for that on eBay but was reluctant to spend any money on something I'd probably never need again, ever. But this video shows a hack using scissors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA6_S9YkZEc

I didn't have a pair laying around that worked but the video inspired me to MacGyver my way to remove that aberration against all that's good in humanity.

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago

in a case i only needed it once, i would solder or power glue something to it to use as a wings handle.

... but that's just me. I'm like eccentric MacGuyver.

[-] Wahots@pawb.social 30 points 6 months ago

Buy a security bitset! It is surprisingly handly to have around. Sometimes, I've needed a certain screw size that they don't have in imperial, but they do have in metric at the hardware store. But it's a security bit only.

They also work on regular, non security bits in a pinch.

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[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If you haven't already, look into getting a ratcheting screwdriver with replaceable bits, and a pack of various bits for it. Idk where I got it, but I've got all kinds of screwy bits (including the H-bit head) that I need very infrequently, but I'm always happy when I do and I already have it.

I think the bit pack I got was for the security torx and it came with a bunch of other stuff.

[-] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 27 points 6 months ago

A complete set of security screw bits is ~20 bucks and they're far more useful than I realized until I acquired them.

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[-] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

Grab a dremel tool and make that piece of shit into a flathead

[-] JayDee@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That's a flathead with a bead welded in the middle. Source a local dremel, some earplugs and eye pro, and do some quick converting.

Oh wait I think I understand the image. You had to saw the plastic apart to expose the screw. Yeah fuck those dudes. I guess another option would've been to get a cheap screw driver and modify it with a dremel? Either way, fuck Kenmore.

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[-] poopsmith@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

If you have a Dremel, I bet you could take out the center bit and use a regular slotted screwdriver.

[-] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 months ago

$10 says it was recessed before op cut the base off, making it impossible without damage to slot the screw with a Dremel.

[-] viking@infosec.pub 11 points 6 months ago

So you use the dremel to cut a groove into your screwdriver instead.

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[-] bitchkat@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

I'd use my dremel to finish the slot that was only partially cut.

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Or use the dremel to cut a slot in the end of a flat screwdriver.

[-] fraksken@infosec.pub 10 points 6 months ago
[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 9 points 6 months ago

How are you supposed to grind a flat on a screw recessed 2" in a hole?

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[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

I didn't even know that that screw type had its own name until I saw it in another comment, but the first thing I thought was to just do what you said.

[-] Aux@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

I had drill bits for such screws for decades, never had the reason to use them though. It's nice to see that there's a use for them after all!

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[-] neidu2@feddit.nl 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The bit set and tool set from IFixIt has those. I'm not sponsored by them in any way, but I will shamelessly recommend their tools when I can because they're objectively good for this kind of stuff.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 7 points 6 months ago

Cut that middle bit out and make it into a flathead.

[-] an_onanist@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

The screw head was at tho bottom of a 2 inch shaft. I destroyed the casing just to find out what the issue was.

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[-] Nougat@fedia.io 5 points 6 months ago

My vacuum cleaner. You know how the roller brush gets all tangled up with hair and threads and whatnot, and the way you fix that is to remove the roller and cut it all out?

The external screws are torx security bits. The internal screws are Phillips. The only reason is to get someone who isn't persistent to go buy a new vacuum cleaner when their roller gets tangled

[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 months ago

Name the brand so we can avoid

[-] WalrusDragonOnABike@lemmy.today 5 points 6 months ago

I just pull the hair directly off the roller as is. No need to take it out. I clean it often enough that it would take more time to take it off no matter what screws it has. The worst part imo is the internal screws being phillips. Torx (whether "security" versions or not) > Phillips/Flathead.

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