For weight, yeah. It's still unhealthy for many reasons but if you only care about weight that'the thing that matters
It's far better for your health to be a healthy weight and unfit than to be overweight and unfit.
Yes, you can eat the same shit. Only way less, though.
Yeah, it is not easy.
We seem to have primarily high calorie foods. The reason people change diets to get some low calorie ones that keep them feeling full.
Another thing, but perhaps not as much related to losing weight is that food doesn't exactly work like most people think i.e. it isn't that we consume something then we get energy from it and then we excrement it. In reality our body absorbes the food and uses it for other functions. So unhealthy food still affects us negatively.
I almost literally lost forty pounds eating nothing but buffalo wings
And then I turned into a vegetarian
Sorry chickens, ty for your lean protein (before they Buffalo'd it), I put it to good use
Someone I look up to more convincingly said the same thing. I scoffed but he knows what he’s talking about.
I lost so much weight so fast—during the beginning of the pandemic no less—by only staying beneath the magical number everyday.
How do you calculate the calorie maintenance number¿?
2200 is about expected maintenance level for a man that does normal daily activities (going on walks, cleaning around the house and so on).
If you currently maintain your weight with whatever you're eating and drinking then calculate how much calories there is in what you're currently eating and drinking (average for the week) and cut that by 500 a day to lose 1 pound a week.
If you're increasing your physical activity as well then take that into consideration, it's much more healthy and effective in the long run (in most situations) to just continue eating the same but to start being active, this way you're not taking anything away, you're adding something to your life.
It doesn't much matter how accurate your calorie estimates are. If you estimate that your daily caloric requirement is 2500 and you're eating 2000 calories a day, then you should be losing about one pound a week (1 pound of fat = 3500 calories). If you find instead that your weight is remaining constant, then either your caloric requirement estimate or your caloric intake estimate is wrong (or both are). In either case, your only option is to eat even less, per your measurements.
I used the same awful but free (with option to upgrade but no need) app the guy I look up to used (and it also knows how many calories I burn in activity during a day). It even has an awful name, but the results are amazing and it already has a ton of the foods I eat in it and it gets easier to use with time.
MyFitnessPal: https://myfitnesspal.com
Don't bother with apps, many website even certain official healthcare sites will have info about food calories, even some calculators and the intake for your age/weight/gender/etc. It seems that if you're biologically female you're kinda screwed though, my partner had much harder time getting 1/10th of result I was getting.
When it comes to counting food calories, you don't necessarily need exact numbers for raw ingredients and that info is out there, for anything else check out packaging and add it all up per day.
Fun story. 12 years ago I lost 80 lbs with keto. 4 years ago I quit keto for convenience because grad school. Gain 10 lb/yr since.
January this year I started keto, didn't lose an ounce in 2 weeks. Eat less via IF and portion control but still keto, start losing. Eat a carb meal but still IF and portion control, still losing. Now I am on a standard ish diet (more emphasis on protein, more restriction on simple carbs) with portion control and gradually losing weight.
I tried dieting like this in 2010 but it "didn't work". In 2012 keto worked great but in hindsight it was likely the forced restriction and eventually calorie counting. Now that I'm good at calorie counting, CICO works great.
That's the thing with keto though. Being in ketosis doesn't make you lose weight on it's own. It just makes it way easier to eat less because you don't spend all day feeling hungry.
That really is the secret sauce of Keto. Of course, good portion control and healthy food choices also help keep you from feeling hungry between meals.
Losing weight is also just more difficult as you age
I wish I could just eat a pill once a day marked with desired bmi and forget about eating and focus on real stuff instead. I can barely hit 17.7 bmi even with some huel powder in a cup that is a hassle to wash. I want like 20 bmi to not look like a stick but it is hard to remember to eat that much
The part of this that sucks is that one day this shit just stops. Went from skinny stick figure constantly being told to eat more and put on weight while eating SO much, then I hit 35 and all of a sudden I'm 15kg overweight and sporting a nice double chin.
Barely ever eating and still gaining weight must've been amazing a million years ago when there was no food but it's the bane of my existence now.
Skinnies rise up. For me I just don’t take the same kind of pleasure in food that friends do, even my slim friends will fight to finish every meal where I’m like nah bro I’m full why would I force myself to finish it.
So often think about how cool it would be to just get a food pill.
If you're able to you should try working out. It increases your appetite. I went from ~18 bmi to ~23 after I started weight lifting and look a lot healthier now. It also took care of a lot of the random aches and pains I had.
Yeah I really need to. I spent a year trying to keep some working out routine. It’s so easy to slip and forget about it. I usually wake up and like wtf I had this healthy routine everything was nice but then some activity/project/idea absorbed me 24/7 for few days and it just evaporated like it never existed. Whether it was learning German, blender or drawing or suddenly writing scifi or warhammer painting or music making or playing guitar or physics learning etc… it is always few days of being utterly lost in that thing
There’s no constant things ever for me but just a repeated cycle of relearning the same thing again and again. I keep enormous collection of tabs on my… developments but forget to come back to them too. I hope they stay somewhere in my subconsciousness
Doesn't matter if you forgot to work out for a bit. The trick is to just start again when you realise you've stopped.
TBH a single Big Mac meal is 1350 Cal, so if you're an adult 5'9" male and dieting then that's already your daily limit.
It sucks but you've basically gotta choose between taste quality and quantity.
You can have nutritious, filling meals that taste really good without excessive calories, you just need to learn to cook. It's also a hell of a lot cheaper than eating fast food all the time.
If you're dieting you're probably overweight so the limit might be a couple hundred calories up.
Also if you skip out on the soda you can lower it a bit too.
Yes, switching to water can drastically reduce the calories in my example.
Daily Calorie use starts at around 2100 for a male 35 y/o at 5'9" and only goes up with physical activity. The number I cited for a big mac meal, 1350, is basically a consumption limit for dieting. Extreme diets go as low as 850 or even fasting. You can in theory still lose weight by consuming any number less than 2100 but the effectiveness will be hard to see and there will be a margin of error in nutritional labeling for calories.
I've personally found lower deficits to be more maintainable over time, with a big deficit you can see the effects really fast but I also find that my weight was more prone to rubberband very quickly after stopping the diet.
If you can maintain a super low deficit and then keep the weight that way after that's great, I just don't think it's really universally applicable.
Yeah, that is why vegetables especially are good for dieting. Low on calories, but full of fibre, which makes you feel full for a much longer time. A burger meal is full of carbohydrates and fat, and you will soon feel hungry again a short while after eating it, regardless of its high caloric content, simply because it lacks fibre.
Literally did this last year and lost like 50 lbs doing nothing and being lazier
Felt like an exploit
you should eat better food though. you will feel better
I dunno man. My neighbor is a big ass boi and his wife is a smoke show.
Maybe try getting a personality
Alternatively, having a lot of money also works.
Technically yes. But fewer calories can also come from eating different things that just earn you fewer, and adding a little activity can increase your caloric budget.
It’s a lot like saving money, but backwards.
adding a little activity can increase your caloric budget.
Even a lot activity increases your budget by very little. Eating less calories is the only option to lose weight. If you want to feel good while doing it, then a little activity can't hurt.
Eh... Depends what kind of activity and your previous activity level. Just the fact that you're adding muscle mass means you're burning more calories even at rest. My maintenance went from 2500 to about 3200 just by starting to lift heavy shit and doing an hour of cardio 5 days a week.
What people don't realize is that they start eating more because of the activities they do and they end up not losing weight, but in the end it's still much more beneficial than not doing activities and just cutting calories and contrary to going on a diet the odds of keeping the benefits long term are much higher as it's something that makes you happy instead of making you feel bad.
I hear this, but don’t think it applies for people who get into sports. My story is not common, but I get annoyed when people talk about how a non athlete could never make a significant difference in their caloric output.
I fell in love with dancing, started doing it fourteen hours a week, lost thirty pounds without really trying, and had to start eating a lot just to maintain.
If you’re young, not overweight enough to seriously tax your joints, and that sounds fun to you, see if there’s a kind of cardio that’s enjoyable for you. If you do end up getting into it, check with your doctor, because heading straight into ten plus hours of cardio a week can cause injury.
I envy the people who can diet by just eating less. That for me is a path to intolerable hunger
Only limiting carbohydrates has worked for me, and I had to increase my meat intake just to ensure I have enough nutrition, with the little you want to eat on low carb
I could never sustain a restriction like this without modifying what I ate. It would have a profound effect of how soon and how much I was compelled to eat next. Once this was very clear to me after dozens of attempts at weight loss, I began to cook and eat for satiety. A low-glycemic, minimally processed diet free of added sugar is what worked best for me long-term. I lost 115 lbs, resolved diabetes, hypertension and non alcoholic fatty liver disease. Also vastly improved some other chronic problems. I've remained at a healthy weight now for 23 years with little variation. A lot of effort really and likely not possible for everyone -especially now. I can say it was worthwhile for me.
The steely resolve of CICO will only take a person so far. In my view that's why it's so unsustainable for most.
When I was a teenager I went on an extreme fast, down to one meal a day, for a 6 week period. Problem is, I struggled to eat a normal amount again after the time I set for myself. I had to go to a food therapist after becoming a twig to try and get my calories up again. Even now, years later, I can easily slip back into eating a bag of crisps and then forgetting to eat the rest of the day.
Dude lost a whole girl in weight.
In this thread: A bunch of Dunning-Kruger effect
You don't need to have a level 200 IQ or 20 years experience to work out that eating less is going to help with weight loss.
Yes. People who just cut out anything "bad" are suckers. But exercise certainly helps, too, and gives you some leeway.
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