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[-] deltreed@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Because they would all go after Biden.

[-] ansiz@lemmy.world 113 points 2 days ago

The worst part is that Biden and the Dems don't have the balls to do anything like this or intentionally put this verdict to the test. Just clutch their pearls and not actually do anything.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 34 points 2 days ago

Biden already said as much with his response to the ruling.

Paraphrasing: "We must respect the (self imposed) limits to the presidency and I will do so. We can't exactly trust the next guy to do so and that's dangerous." (Proceeds to wag finger as if that will do fuck-all)

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

You know how Chamberlain ended up with a reputation for being the coward that allowed Hitler to become powerful on the world stage? Biden is gambling on this fucking election that it will prevent him from going down in history as today's version of that.

Except it will be more deserved for Biden because Chamberlain knew the Allies didn't have the capability to stop Hitler with force when Hitler was making his early moves and was quietly building up the UK's military while appeasing Hitler.

Everything that is about to come is as much at Biden's feet as it is at Trump's and all his fascist friends'.

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Well, if trump wins, Biden will still be president for a few months after, so there's still hope

[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Wrong. There absolutely is not.

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[-] Freefall@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago

Gotta take the high road while the other side takes a road so low it undermines the foundations of everything we are!

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[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Last episode of ~~Dragon~~ Weekly Americano, we witnessed the once heroic group known as the Supreme Court Justice 9 reveal their evil plans meant to enslave the citizens. The author made the villains so strong, the emboldened villains themselves wrote themselves a weakness knowing that there is no opposition strong enough to wield the mighty power of “Absolute Immunity” against them. Is there anyway to stop the Supreme Court Justice 9, find out in this episode of Weekly Americano.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What's stopping him is "civility politics," even when he's been handed a path to thoroughly purge corruption and fascism from the supreme court, he won't.

The GOP has shown they do not care at all about civility, and will abuse this rule.

To not play by the same rules when people's lives are at stake is a deep moral failure, and shows that politics are simply a game for the DNC when faced with a GOP that doesn't care.

[-] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

I'm not so sure it's civility politics that is limiting him here. I doubt this nakedly corrupt and partisan court would actually side with his administration when it comes to agreeing that his acts are indeed official. Especially if said acts don't fit with the Federalist Society's ideology.

If he doesn't get re-elected that's a different story, and he is realistically too old to face major consequences for his actions... so it would be great if he would at least have special forces rough these guys up a little bit to make a point about the necessary limits on executive power.

[-] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago

I wish Dems had that dog in them to fight, even if this was possible. The fact they still go around calling modern day GOP their friends and colleagues says more than enough.

[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 8 points 1 day ago

They're all on the same corporate payrolls, dems are and have been nothing more than controlled opposition.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago
  1. Those aren't things that would otherwise be crimes. He doesn't have immunity from procedure, he has immunity for crimes. He kill the justices, or kidnap them and lock them up in some undisclosed location. He has immunity in those cases. But expanding the court would require passing a law. Passing a law is not an action that the President takes, regardless of any presidential immunity. As for felons not being able to become presidents, any law congress passed to say that would be unconstitutional, because the constitution lays out the only requirements to become a US president. The constitution also limits the ways in which the constitution could be changed, and none of that is within the powers of a president. He could kill Trump, but he can't change the rules about who's allowed to be president.

  2. He still believes that the system works. He thinks the checks and balances work. He believes that, regardless of the recent Supreme Court ruling, that he's not immune, so he won't commit crimes like that. The result might be that the final president of the Republic thought it was more important to follow tradition and live the values that he thought the president should hold, than to do what was necessary to prevent the Republic from becoming a dictatorship.

[-] SubmersibleMammal@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

If he doesn't follow procedure would that be a crime?

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[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 241 points 2 days ago

Make it so felons cannot run for president and resign immediately after.

If he did that Biden would be remembered as one of the greatest presidents ever.

[-] lazylion_ca@lemmynsfw.com 77 points 2 days ago

Or change the max age to 75.

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago

Why not both? Also make it 70.

[-] crank0271@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago

If we're selecting cool max ages for things I suggest 69.

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[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

That's not how the ruling works.

Biden could go shoot Donald Trump (in broad daylight on 5th Avenue) and could not be prosecuted for it.

He cannot make new laws. That's still Congress's job, for now.

[-] fiercekitten@lemm.ee 31 points 2 days ago

Unfortunately Trump isn’t the real underlying problem; the republican party will churn out someone even worse who is not a convicted felon.

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[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 214 points 2 days ago

Biden has the chance to do the coolest thing. He wont because hes the most tepid person in the most tepid party in the country but, I'd love to be wrong.

[-] thallamabond@lemmy.world 89 points 2 days ago

Such a good word to describe Biden. Tepid. Like a beer that's been sitting while i worked outside, or maybe the last sip of coffee. Not the best, but better than nothing.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Especially when the alternative is a glass of poison. A warm, flat beer is not going to kill you, even though it might taste disgusting.

The worst thing is that you don't get to choose whether you're drinking the warm, flat beer or the poison. Depending on where you live your vote might not even matter. A bunch of uninformed and misinformed idiots in a few random states will decide for you which you're drinking.

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[-] Freefall@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

So, Fat Orange Clown, how is "hiding documents you shouldn't have as a non-president" an official act? How is anything done as "not the president" an official act?

RIP

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[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 90 points 2 days ago

What stopping them is that Democrats are too weak and timid to do anything.

[-] abracaDavid@lemmy.today 33 points 2 days ago

They are simply complicit.

The mask is off. We officially cannot trust our government anymore.

[-] tehmics@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Never could

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[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago

Biden will only abuse his presidential powers in a Trump way for real important matters.

Such as bypassing congres to send bombs to israel for Genocide.

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[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 83 points 2 days ago

Immune from criminal prosecution*

The state AGs can and will still challenge any and all such executive orders.

But if Biden hypothetically were to kidnap, beat, or murder supreme court justices or political opponents, then that's another story.

[-] ArcRay@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 2 days ago

Yep, EO's are still subjected to judicial reviews.

This ruling doesn't let Biden write new laws. But, he could put out an EO and then use force to enforce it. He could put one out, that then gets overruled, then he could just claim that the justice department was wrong.

This is so fucking stupid

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[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 22 points 2 days ago

Immunity does not equate to lack of opposition within government, which is what he is going to get if he plays by the rules. Now, if he goes in as commander in chief to depose them through a literal coup, he would be legally immune from the repercussions of abusing his powers whether it worked out or not, but the mistake here would be believing that the GQP care about legality when they only consider it a means to an end to corrupt so that the people that do care can't use it against them.

[-] Hedup@lemm.ee 41 points 2 days ago

Of course Biden shouldn't do anything heinous, but he definitely should do something earthshaking against either Republican party or the Supreme Court just to make a point.

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[-] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago

Biden should order assassination of the MAGA justices

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[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 43 points 2 days ago

Cowardice, the same thing that stopped him from packing the court on his first day.

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[-] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 days ago

For real. Biden could seemingly imprison some republicans from both chambers of Congress, and secure a majority in both chambers. From there have congress pass legislation making felons incapable of running for office, and also allowing for all actions a president does liable to prosecution.

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You’re thinking too small, he could fucking have Alito and Thomas thrown in jail or hanged if he were so inclined, I’m not saying he should have them hanged, but he totally could based on this ruling

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