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Ersei, the developer behind this so-called Cloud Native Computer, says the project was primarily a “silly” pursuit. There is also a problem with booting from Google Drive currently being very slow. However, the dev also boasts that “the possibilities are endless” and would welcome any companies or individuals who wish to get in contact and discuss commercializing this project or something related to it.

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[–] jfx@discuss.tchncs.de 173 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Soo, booting your computer from someone else's computer?

I mean we've had thin clients and PXE for ages?

[–] mox 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And bootp before that, and tftp before that. So I think roughly... 35 years?

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

PXE specifically uses tftp doesn't it?

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

More being able to use cloud storage and not need a full physical secondary computer. In theory the cloud can be accessed anywhere, even if a portion is down, not the same for a single physical PC.

[–] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

is the non physical cloud in the room right now?

[–] lewdian69@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Nope! That's the point. It's in someone else's room!

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[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do thin clients and PXE require a server specifically configured to serve a boot image? (Genuinely asking.)

I'm not sure whether this project is doing something new by just accessing network resources that are nothing more than shared files, without any specific software running on the server (beyond just a server serving files).

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Yes, they do. The novel thing here is serving the files out of Google Drive.

There are existing PXE servers that run over the Internet, like boot.netboot.xyz, so that you don't have to run your own (assuming you trust everyone involved in that connection). Those are far more practical.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 128 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So it's a thin client remote booting extremely slowly over a really high latency connection. Cool, the 1980s called and they want their tech back.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 90 points 1 year ago (1 children)

However, the dev also boasts that “the possibilities are endless” and would welcome any companies or individuals who wish to get in contact and discuss commercializing this project or something related to it.

"We're looking for dumb investors that don't understand technology so we can sell them a bridge."

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bro forgot to liberally sprinkle blockchain and AI dust on his project before offering it to investors

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's basically booting and running the OS from inside the AI in the cloud!! The system doesn't "use" blockchain, it's made of blockchain! Every file is an NFT by default which provides a built in system for profit for everything you do on the computer!

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 97 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So they reinvented terminals, but worse

[–] sugartits@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago

Put a swap file on that bad boy boy and they've invented downloading ram!

This is a revolution.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 year ago

Aw yiss, all of my information on Google’s servers siiiiiicc

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago

Wow this sounds useless. Congratulations or whatever.

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

Good luck booting when Google nukes your account

[–] FelipeFelop@discuss.online 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can see two issues here:

It’s not really a storageless computer. It’s using EFI as storage to build the ramdisk.

What happens if you need to change things because of a change of cloud account, change of cloud API etc etc

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

No computer is ever really storageless. Even the BIOS has to be stored somewhere. If you didn't have any storage, you wouldn't be able to load any code, and it would not be a computer, it would be a brick.

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[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the thing that gets me is that said dev tried it first with amazon S3 and it worked infinitely better there

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

Reminds me of the image macro about using drive as your swap

[–] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

So we’re back to ~~PXI~~ PXE? Everything old is new again.

Neat technical problem to solve though just for fun

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I set up a PXE image for the Arch installer and scripted the whole installation. The idea was to switch the boot order and have it auto-reimage, such as for a IOT device deploy.

Once I built it, I never used it again. But it was a fun afternoon.

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[–] Glowstick@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Primarily a silly pursuit”

[–] Glowstick@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, but it then goes on saying

"However, the dev also boasts that “the possibilities are endless” and would welcome any companies or individuals who wish to get in contact and discuss commercializing this project or something related to it."

And that's what I'm saying "y tho" to.

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

I mean, shit. If I did something stupid for fun and some idiot business major wants to pay me for an implementation, regardless of how useful It actually is, I’m not turning it down.

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[–] chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 10 points 1 year ago

Netboot.xyz ?

One of my duties in my first job was to build diskless computers. I’d record an EPROM in the station and boot from a Novell server.

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