Fun fact: Torx screwdrivers are compatible with Torx Plus screws, but Trox Plus screwdrivers are only compatible with Torx screws that are one size larger
I repair a lot of tech and I have never seen torx other than the standard, and security version. And security torx drivers are compatible with regular torx
There's other types on cars
Torx are superior to all other types. I've been a carpenter for roughly three decades, and have suffered through all manner of fastening methods that have come and gone. None of them can hold a candle to Torx. I've never seen another type that can resist stripping out so well and for so long.
How do you feel about square drive? I'm no carpenter, just someone that's done enough work around the house, but I've found that Torx are the best option but square is a close second (but I don't think I've used them in any especially high torque situations, and they may fall short there).
Square drive (or Robertson) I consider a close second. They do tend to strip out faster, especially in "softer" fasteners like stainless steel.
Torx should be the default over Phillips for sure. Phillips is fine for shit like access panels or screw terminals. Slotted is useless for anything but the adjustment on pots and thermostats. Robertson is just a proto-torx. Everything else either exists to make someone money or is a bolt
Fellow contractor here. Torx or go home. Drywall screws are the only exception I'm willing to make.
the worst is not when the screwdriver is fucked but the screw is. That is some huge pain in the ass
my brother in christ have you seen phillips head and posi drive?
Life sucks. You can't win.
Useful tip: with security torx screws, with the little nub in the centre, if you get a small flathead screwdriver to jam in there and wiggle a bit, that centre bit will snap off without much difficulty.
You should be able to use a regular Torx screwdriver bit after that.
I have to admit that each time I saw a torx security screw on a case I had to open (looking at you, Compaq) this made me so angry that I used to punch the middle pin away with a flathead screwdriver, and replace the screw with a regular one later. This was in those past times I did not have a fuckton of assorted torx bits in a gigantic case...
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Lmao you've clearly never met Philips.
And if you're advocating slotted screws (flathead) you've already lost.
Torx is supreme. The end.
Robinson aka the square head is by far the superior choice.
LOL sure, good one... Only time that square abomination is the answer is if the question is "what do you get if you put a toddler in charge of designing a poor knockoff unbrako head?"
TEAM TORX REPRESENT!
Things are getting heated in the screw fandom
I'm not canadian, so I don't have a lot of experience with robertson. But from the limited experience that I do have, I would rate it 10/10.
What would you recommend for smaller screws (e.g. for electronics)? As far as I know, there aren't smaller sizes of robertson like there are with torx?
Pozidrive has real nice engagement and doesn't cam out like Phillips does. And JIS drivers do a better job in Phillips than Phillips ones do.
After wrecking some JIS screws on a vintage reciever, I bought a nice Vessel-brand JIS driver set, and use it for all my crosshead needs.
*Robertson
Found the Canadian.
Don't discount hex, paired with a ball-end wrench, those are great for odd angles or tight spaces a straight wrench can't get too.
I'm Jewish, so I'm going to have to go with the tamper-resistant Torx when I need to use screws on myself.
Edit: A troll flagged this as antisemitic, so apparently I hate my own ethnicity?
Not a single person sharing the xkcd comic about standards? Well I'm not doing it.
The EU should fine companies for introducing new standards that break old standards. Or any shit standards like Toslink: https://lemmy.world/comment/10671314 . Standardization organizations shouldn't be sleeping through all this shit.
Why is screw DLC legal? Why are people ok with companies preventing people from working in their own devices?
Why does Torx Plus have six teeth but tamper-resistant Torx Plus has five? Whereas 'what the fuck is this' basically looks like it should be tamper-resistant Torx Plus?
I guess they wanted to make the screws even more tamper-resistant? With the standard Torx Tamper-Resistant screws, they could often be bypassed by chiseling the pin away with a flathead and a hammer, and then using a standard Torx driver. Can't do that with the pentalobular design!
Torx drivers are forward compatible with Torx plus screws
+1 for hex, but that's in a lab setting
climate controlled environment, generally not high torque, pretty benign conditions. But even that is fraught with metric-vs.-imperial mix ups.
The key is to drag the US into the future along with literally everyone but Liberia and Myanmar.
Torx is the 🐐! Phillips are just terrible, I prefer slotted over Phillips. You can slip out quite easily with slotted but if you are in there they work ok.
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