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[-] iie@hexbear.net 47 points 1 month ago

I guess flooding every social media platform with misogynistic propaganda has worked pretty well

[-] ihaveibs@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago

Tried to use Tiktok a while back, had to stop after a week because once the algorithm "realized" I was a man it would not stop sending me Joe Rogan clips, thirst traps of young women, and other incredibly misogynist (and racist, and any other sort of reactionary) content. It was pretty fucking heinous. Lasering that into young minds that can't defend themselves is a deeply upsetting crime against humanity.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

YouTube shorts is the same, no matter how many times you try to filter it out, you get that kind of shit, or daily wire propaganda. It's incessant

[-] pooh@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

I never got that with TikTok, but youtube shorts is almost always trying to feed me some right wing bullshit. My TikTok on the other hand is almost all trans women and stuff like makeup tutorials (and some cute pups), and it was like this was long before I realized I was trans.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Tbh I don't use tiktok much, just to open links people send.

[-] pooh@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

That might be why some people are having issues with TikTok. You do have to train it a bit, but once you like a few videos it will start to shift. I think that’s part of the reason why TikTok got so popular in the first place, since it really does get good at providing what you want to see the more you use it.

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[-] ihaveibs@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes it so much worse. Even if it's not all that shit, it won't stop feeding me annoying John Green videos no matter how many times I tell it to stop lol

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[-] duderium@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

My tiktok feed is almost nothing but Palestinians begging for their lives.

[-] ihaveibs@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

I wasn't involved in leftist politics at the time but even still I kept blocking/telling TikTok to stop sending me these videos and it would just never stop

[-] Ishmael@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

Seriously, I have a roommate who is ostensibly a nice guy, never says anything sexist/racist or whatever, and our living situation involves a Black/indigenous woman. But I hear him listening to TikToks all the time that are just the most vile misogynist or weirdly tradtional viewpoints ("women, if you make dinner but your husband don't like it, what do you do as a good wife?" etc). I feel like he's probably not even choosing these toks, they're just unavoidable.

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago

I feel like he's probably not even choosing these toks, they're just unavoidable.

My TikTok feed is full of communists, he's engaging with the content, and it's responding in kind.

[-] TheFinalCapitalist@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

swear to god tho your algo gets reset every so often if you engage with commie content regularly. my fyp will be good for like a week then all of a sudden its back to liberal/fascist content till i retrain the fuckin thing

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They have to keep testing their users with potential new content they may start liking so that the app stays new and refreshing and people keep coming back

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[-] Orcocracy@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

In a communist utopia, if you wanted to watch trashy social media garbage while you take the train home after a long day you should be forced to hunt for it in one big alphabetical directory that looks like mid-‘90s Yahoo. Recommendation algorithms are inherently reactionary and after the revolution they must be abolished.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

Nah, just replace the current algorithms with ones that boost commies and suppress and ban reactionaries.

[-] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

ban reactionaries but fuck algorithms

content is so homogenous at the moment

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[-] HexBeara@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Skill issue

Only tiktok adjacent that I have issues with is yt shorts. My algo is tism, trans, communist, gaymer, feminist, and black liberation, with a few thirst traps here and there. I'm a 30 y.o. hwite bisexual gaymer dude(?). And here's an example of what pops up on my fyp.

https://www.tiktok.com/@dimension20honey/video/7363700906333850923?

The only thing I can think of that might be screwing with his algorithm is gymtok maybe?

Edit: pretend like you didn't notice my poor opsec and you don't know what I'm talking about. Thanks 🙏

[-] ihaveibs@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

I think for me it was probably that I liked watching sports clips. So it didn't matter how many times I tried to block reactionary shit fromy feed

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[-] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago
[-] Ishmael@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah I really feel like the app is kind of default shitty and then if you're a milquetoast white guy like him then the app just feeds you progressively more sexist right-wingy content because you're a white guy who doesn't critically engage with the content. It's like it only changes if you somehow signal you're non-white non-male

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

The sad thing is, you try pointing this out and they call you crazy, and then say the nebulous thing they call "the left" controls social media and media in general. We're so fucked.

[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago

white dudes supporting reactionary ideologies that maintain their unequal privilege? Color me surprised

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 month ago

This has literally never happened before. Who could have seen this coming?

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 38 points 1 month ago

7 minutes in and these guys are like "unlimited genocide on the first world, unironically it's time for purges, kill everyone in the right, etc etc" lmao

[-] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

I thought you were exaggerating. I know it's a small channel, but holy shit I didn't think you could say something that blunt and not get blackholed by some automated NSA algorithm.

[-] MrPiss@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Like 200 views in 6 hours and half of them are likely from here. They aren't worth the effort to even look into suppressing.

This comment section is larger than the comment section of their video.

[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

Wdym... I had to listen to a lot of the video just to hear something like... "chopping up racists and feeding them to the pigs isn't a good law" and other redacted-1 redacted-2 things...

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

Starting at 7 minutes with guy on the left:

I have my threshold - you're right though, you're right, I have my threshold, and my wife will tell you I'm the first to say that we need to bring back some kind of massive purge of people that don't need to exist anymore, not just even limited to violent criminals but really people who think that it's okay to put themselves above others, right, people who just totally ignore the fact that other people exist. A-and are biologically uh inept from empathizing with other people and let say "Well they're poor, they're homeless it's their fault" people like that, yeah, should be executed, but like you said, re-education, right, before we through the hammer down, we got to give it a shot. I - look - and that's why I say I open my doors, you come in, you have a conversation, and if by the end of it that I'm convinced that you're unsalvageable? Then off to the woodchipper you go. In my book. That's-

Followed by guy on the right:

And that's why it's funny to me because you say that even like the libertarian and the chuds and everybody are redeemable, and I'm over here saying "no american is redeemable".

[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not shooting the messenger, but I feel the guy shouldn't ruminate much on purging and killing...

If I were him, I'd just say:

You either get shot or you're free and with me, no compromises like prison or re-education...

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

idk if y'all ever get glimpses into the culture of 16-27 year old men on your tiktok but it's incredibly bleak

all of the content creators they watch are very anti-social. They use poor people as entertainment - shitty annoying pranks, paying people to be a zoo animal in some degrading gameshow, humiliating them in interviews or other crap, constantly reacting to "abnormal" people by bullying them for laughs

They teach men how to become a fuckboi and drown by being manipulative and vapid (appearing to have high social status, flexing wealth) instead of just being a good person

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

Sounds like "reality TV" but even worse doomer

[-] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

I used tiktok for like a month and all i had was rez guys getting excited about grocery store fried chicken and making fun of some of the clapped out cars you would see in driveways. Thankfully, the app is too annoying and too fast for my mind.

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[-] kristina@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago
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[-] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

About 2m in:

France - men are more likely to support Marine Le Pen's far-right National Rally while women vote left

And then the host says they just got into power lmao. No, the left-wing coalition won, the right-wing coalition did worse than expected. And men and women voted equally, at least in the first round. Instead it came down to age and occupation. Why are they discussing something they haven't investigated?

[-] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

WTF is this podcast... This should be in dunk tank not videos.

3m40: Maternal instincts? What.

4m50: Omg he wants a broad tent that includes bigots. No, do political struggle and education.

5m20: I will talk with Adolf Hitler, he says brow

6m40: They are now saying said bigots are subhuman and that it's OK for them to die. Which like, OK go off but please pick one.

7m50: OK guy on the left is synthesizing these ideas by being pro-reeducation. Real.

8m: Guy on the right wants to kill all Americans ok lmao

12-13m: (paraphrasing) "Women are better at serving because of sociological conditioning.... no actually it's also because their brains are different..." bruh-moment "I'm a rabid feminist that thinks there are significant biological differences in the brain" centrist

13m40: Casually transphobic remark about putting on a dress and "tucking your wiener"

14m: Says all creatures with a central nervous system should be treated equally. vegan-liberation

17m30: Now they're being racist????

25m: Transitional healthcare misinformation

All offense: These two are idiots who are just uttering their stream of consciousness instead of doing research and thinking before they talk. Some "political analysis." pathetic

[-] shipwreck@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

Incredibly incoherent podcast. It’s more emblematic of the current state of the American left and how confused they really are.

[-] MrPiss@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

Yeah the whole time I'm going between thinking they have a decent opinion on some small point and then it derails and flips to something stupid. I feel like they had transphobic transinclusive opinions(?). I couldn't tell if it was a bit at first since I've never seen these people before. I kept wondering if their opinion of "cut off your dick or whatever I don't care you do you" was their serious position.

Overall they'll probably spend less time in the reducation camps than a lot of other people but they'll still be in there.

[-] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

transphobic transinclusive opinions(?).

What you get when you agree trans people can exist but don't do any of the reading or listening

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Agreed 100%, too bad because it's always funny when an american says death to america.

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

This explains their obsession with “leftist” white women being offended or upset by bigotry.

[-] AndJusticeForAll@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

The green parties are barely left aren't they, you're basically just getting gender-specific right wing parties. One that's like city-business capitalist and one that's more extractive capitalist.

[-] aqwxcvbnji@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

Piketty wrote a book about voting tendencies in medium long term, and everywhere on earth this is becoming a more and more pronounced distinction, which didn't exist in the past.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

Unironically shit like this makes me question if I'm "really" a guy at all. Like, I am not going to vote for the deaths of a bunch of "undesirables" just because it's "cool", or I think it's funny. Yet I am by far in the minority here. Like, am I just trans or something and this is a sign that's the case?

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

but do you watch sports on tv?

[-] tupcakes@midwest.social 2 points 1 month ago

Not necessarily, it just means you have empathy and are not a total shitbag.

[-] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

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[-] Egon@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

Whipping boy! Whipping boy!! Brrrring outt my whipping boy!

[-] SummerIsTooWarm@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

Is it weird that this heading causes gender-euphoria?

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