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[–] Argurotoxus@lemmy.world 55 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Engineer: 2, but 3 to be safe.

[–] Belgdore@lemm.ee 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The budget is for 1.5, make it work.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Oh, hi Boeing Manager.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't they just look up the answer in a table?

[–] Argurotoxus@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Nah not anymore, now you spend a day or so building some convoluted excel calculator once so that you never need to do the calcs again.

Then, 3 years later when you go to add or change something in that calculator, you have absolutely no idea how it works and decide the change wasn't that important anyway.

[–] einlander@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago

1+1=3 in cases of large 1's

[–] callyral@pawb.social 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

1 + 1 is not equal to a question mark.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What did 1 minus 1 equal before zero was invented? 🤔

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Yeah, define "zero".

The one invented on India at around the Middle Age is a different one. The one you are asking about is very old.

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

ok, I define 1 as {∅} and 2 as {∅, {∅}}

proving the addition holds is slightly more complicated

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 33 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I love the comment that it's "occasionally useful"

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hmm yes.. set theory... I don't understand anything happening here

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

There is actually a really good explanation for us math-curious non-mathematicians here:
https://blog.plover.com/math/PM.html

[–] MaliciousKebab@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

That's some good read, thank you so much.

[–] MBM@lemmings.world 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

+ is a map from N×N to N where a + 0 = a and a + S(b) = S(a + b) (S is the successor function that gives the next number).
Then 1 + 1 = 1 + S(0) = S(1 + 0) = S(1) = 2.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

seems a little sus to use + to define +

[–] apolo399@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

No, it's correct. You define the operation by it's properties. It's not saying that "a plus 0 = a" but "the result of applying the binary operation '+' to any number with 0 should give the original number."

  • is just a symbol. You could instead write it as +(a,0)=a and +(a,S(b))=S(+(a,b)).

You have to have previously defined 1=S(0), 2=S(1), 3=S(2), and so on.

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[–] porl@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I really recommend the YouTube channel "Another Roof". His first few videos were building up exactly this idea, as well as building up all the real numbers (possibly complex too if I'm remembering correctly). Sounds like a dry topic but he uses humour really well throughout. https://youtube.com/@anotherroof

Here is a playlist of the topic: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsdeQ7TnWVm_EQG1rmb34ZBYe5ohrkL3t

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 2 points 10 months ago

ooh, that looks interesting!

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You forgot accountant

"What do you need it to be?"

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 5 points 10 months ago

We need to report negative earnings so we don't have to pay taxes obviously

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] hexabs@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm surprised the 6 year old knows factorials.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Not only that, it is mathematically correct, at least given the usual definitions of 1, 2, +, and !

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Error, float detected when int expected

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You can't put an expression on the left-hand-side of the assignment operator.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

You need more expressive languages.

[–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Computer Scientist: 0 and a carry bit

Mathematician: S(1)

[–] BlackLaZoR@kbin.run 9 points 10 months ago

Quantum physicist: Whats the uncertainty?!

[–] Aarrodri@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Terrence Howard : 2 !! Also 1x1=2 !!

[–] ChowJeeBai@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

How would a two year old know factorials?

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

I appreciate the latex-style quotes around the mathematician's 1

[–] NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Math isn't induction. Its deductive logic.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Appliance salesperson: oven + pan = hamburger

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