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Or do bookstores only stock right wing books? The most "left" book I can find at this Books A Million is the latest from Bernie Sanders 🙃

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[-] synae 70 points 1 month ago

There's a huge grift in right wing book media.

They ghost write a book, buy it with campaign/superpac/donor/megachurch funds, and give them away at rallies, etc.

This has 3 benefits: funnels money to the "author", reinforces loyalty of those that get a free book, and makes them appear popular+legitimate by being a "new york times bestseller" (etc) which also gets them in more bookstores as you've described.

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

No, I think Donald Trump Jr. is definitely popular enough to make his book ”Triggered” a bestseller.

[-] Andrzej@lemmy.myserv.one 16 points 1 month ago

Yeah in the UK it's how they pay state assets lol

[-] dirtybeerglass@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

Is that right ? Any where I can read more ?

I know the newspapers and right wing tv channels are used to pay right wing loud mouths

[-] Andrzej@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 1 month ago

I can't really furnish you with a link, though I saw some pretty convincing breakdowns back when I was on Twitter. Long story short, nobody is actually buying e.g. James Ball's books — they don't even print nearly enough to cover what the author is paid. It's similar to the columnist grift, which is definitely a thing in the US too

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[-] thebartermyth@hexbear.net 42 points 1 month ago

No, PACs or think tanks or whoever buys a lot of the books then gives them away.

This bookstore thing you're seeing is probably the publisher paying for marketing. Stocking and shelf placement guarantees, etc. Essentially they pay to have the books displayed in major bookstores. It's not exclusive to the right, but it's more obvious.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago

Also, old people buy books because when they die they want to dramatically grab the bookshelf and knock all of their books down around them so that the investigators can make a pithy comment while putting on some sunglasses

[-] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"when we find who ever did this we'll be sure to puts on sunglasses throw the book at them"

YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH

[-] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago

IMO you are seeing the confluence of two things

First https://electricliterature.com/are-conservative-titles-using-shady-tricks-to-get-onto-the-bestseller-list/

and second book retailers basically just filling their shelves with whatevers on the NYT bestseller list or determining what books to stock by similar metrics rather than some actually curated selection.

[-] dirtybeerglass@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

3 things if they are in Kentucky

[-] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago

Worth noting that bookstores, especially corporate ones do not and usually will outright refuse to stock or even special order any leftist books. They will usually have no ability to even order you something that you're looking for. The furthest left thing you'll see is maybe some Noam Chomsky, angsty radlib YA fiction, or a democrat's ghostwritten memoir.

Yes, you all need to read more theory, but don't forget that we live in a capitalist society that's heavily preoccupied with actively repressing and destroying any leftist thought that may occur in opposition to it.

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[-] windowlicker@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

for right wingers these books are almost entirely for show and seldom read. having them is less about extracting knowledge from them but about the status symbol of having a trump or liz cheney or ted cruz book or showing off your opinions with these visual capsules of ideology. there isn’t anything in that book worth reading and they know that, it’s just about sending money to your favorite right wing grifter and then getting a little display piece out of it.

also the big chain bookstores are only shelving these books because they’re acceptable opinions in this fascist society. if they shelved lenin for instance i’m sure they’d get blasted by chud media for a week. many smaller independent bookstores will often have marxist stuff or, at the very least, some relatively left leaning authors.

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

Buy more, yes

Read more, no

[-] HarryLime@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

I read years ago that right wing billionaires and groups buy up large quantities of right wing books in order to drive up purported sales figures.

[-] LanyrdSkynrd@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

It's all of the grift/graft reasons other people have written, but there are also a type of American that reads only this shit. They probably don't even read them, they just stack up until they die and their kids have to figure out what to do with them.

My partner volunteers at a charity thrift shop in the book section. They sometimes get shipments of books that were rejected by Goodwill because they're unmarketable. They get this kind of right wing political slop, which ends up in a dumpster.

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

heavily propagandized liberal country mostly sells liberal media

[-] 12022081631@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

LATE NIGHT WITH JIMMY FALLON

"so i wrote this CANCEL CULTURE DICTIONARY......."

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

That's what I thought too, but it's some guy called Jimmy Failla. I was confused over why Fallon would have opinions on cancel culture.

[-] newacctidk@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

Yeah if there is one guy who seemingly cannot be cancelled it is mr. blackface

[-] Cowbee@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

Liberals and fascists outnumber leftists greatly in the west. If you mean liberals vs fascists, liberalism I believe sells better, but boomers also love their book slop.

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Being right wing isn't a direct corollary of being less knowledgeable or less intelligent

Some people are just assholes

[-] motherofmonsters@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

They certainly burn more

[-] Shaleesh@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I used to work in one of these kinds of stores for a long ass time and this is what I figured out about the whole thing.

When it comes to books that are soley about current affairs rightists will buy a much wider selection of titles, but books that appeal to libs and leftists sell more copies overall. It's part of the rightwing grift for dudes like Ben Shapiro to publish a book every so often to launder their image as an intellectual and make some money while they're at it. They function more like fan merchandise than they do actual serious collections of thought since they usually deal with VERY current affairs and become totally irrelevant in about two to three years if not earlier.

Books that are politcal in nature that appeal to the other parts of the spectrum tend to show up in other sections and don't sell well next to stuff like you're seeing in that endcap display. In my store Marx was filed under philosophy, books on racial justice were found in social studies, and climate change was found closer to nuclear physics than it was Mark Levin's current ragebait cashgrab. So it's not really that rightwingers are better read, it's mostly how the bookselling industry works.

That being said... in half a decade I had probably 100s of requests for rightwing books ranging from Rush Limbaugh shit to The Protocols of the Elders of Zion (side note, I would explain what it was to people and the reaction was usually something like "what? [Insert relative here] is trying to get me to read THAT?" so Im pretty sure I started some fights indirectly) and exactly 0 requests for Marx or Kropotkin or anyone like that. However books about racial justice, womens issues, queer matters, and the exploitation of labor sold reasonably well on their own.

[-] abc@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

Books that are politcal in nature that appeal to the other parts of the spectrum tend to show up in other sections and don't sell well next to stuff like you're seeing in that endcap display. In my store Marx was filed under philosophy, books on racial justice were found in social studies, and climate change was found closer to nuclear physics than it was Mark Levin's current ragebait cashgrab. So it's not really that rightwingers are better read, it's mostly how the bookselling industry works.

real and I cannot believe there are multiple comments talking about how chain bookstores don't have any leftist literature further left than Bernie Sanders. Penguin Random House will gladly print all three volumes of Capital or Kropotkin's Mutual Aid; both which I've seen and bought before at two different Barnes & Nobles both located in the US South.

OP looking at an end-cap presumably by the registers aside, I think people tend to overlook the fact that most bookstores (even the corporate chain ones) will absolutely take customer requests into consideration; much like how the same exact thing happens with public libraries!

[-] CyberSyndicalist@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

Big publishers will publish literally anything. Mileage varies on what chain bookstores will sell which is influenced by location and store size (as in physical size of inventory they can stock). I've personally never seen any leftist literature in any bookstore in any city that doesn't have a university for instance.

[-] simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nobody prints Stalin, though.

Edit: not a disagreement, I just think it's weird that Marx gets printed in the imperial core but not Stalin

[-] axont@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

Circular grift of right wing authors and billionaires gaming the NYT best seller list, bookstores also being in on this game. They're the book equivalent of mockbuster, asylum style movies. They're written by poorly paid ghost writers and then bought in huge quantities to drive up sales numbers, then bookstores sell a bunch based on those phantom sales. Publisher makes money since they're often owned by the billionaire or right wing media agency or whatever.

[-] Poogona@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

Right wingers buy these books but don't read them, they buy them to have bought the merch.

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

So like K-Pop but for Ted Cruz?

[-] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

Who owns the bookstore? Is it capital? (honestly I'm not trying to be a pedantic dick, even though my comment sounds like it)

[-] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

IDK, my dad (became a anti-trumper in 2020 but still is definitely right wing and conservative) read a shit ton of Ann Coulter back in the day. But then he also would read People's History by Zinn and Lies my Teacher Told Me and the like, he was a Civics high school teacher so he was more well read and educated than your average chud

[-] Parzivus@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Funny how many teachers I know got the book Lies my Teacher Told Me. Like obviously the book isn't just "fuck teachers!" but still

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[-] Orcocracy@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

You generally need to go to a bookshop that stocks academic books to find proper lefty stuff.

[-] Tom742@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

Right wingers grift more books.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

I never get it either. Most chuds I know have this weird “reading is for girls” mindset.

[-] lil_tank@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

Depends on the brand. For example PewDiePie has a video format about books. Also I know local fascists in France had a thing with reading a lot of books. Reading makes one look smart. The catch is, that conservative literature is super digestible, with a required reading level never above high school.

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

We need books like this. Like Second Thought but in book form

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[-] duderium@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

For my job I find myself going inside conservative homes several times each weekday. They almost never have any books inside them at all. The only books you are likely to find are the fucking bible. I don’t know who the fuck is buying these books (money launderers) or where they are going (probably straight into landfills). But I do know as a communist writer that it’s very difficult to sell books.

Edit: liberals will occasionally have terrible novels in their homes. Certainly less than five percent of the houses I’ve entered have large amounts of books which appear to have been read.

[-] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

probably straight into landfills

A fair number of them make a stop at the thrift stores first, I guess to make finding the good books more laborious

[-] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You kidding? Book stores are full of right wing books.

Because they can't sell them.

[-] lil_tank@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

I just had to look up Blood Money and holy shit

spoilerBlood Money: Why the Powerful Turn a Blind Eye While China Kills Americans

It’s often said that China is in a cold war with America. The reality is far worse: the war is hot, and the body count is one-sided.

China is killing Americans and working aggressively to maximize the carnage while our leaders remain passive and, in some cases, compliant. Why?

If anyone could crack the code, it’s the renowned nonpartisan investigator Peter Schweizer.

Schweizer’s previous three number one New York Times bestsellers sent shock waves through official Washington, sparking FBI investigations and congressional probes that continue to this day.

For Blood Money, Schweizer and his team of forensic investigators spent more than two years scouring a trove of restricted Chinese military documents, data-mining a mountain of American financial records, and tracking US political leaders’ investments and family businesses.

Schweizer unloads bombshell after bombshell, exposing the Chinese Communist Party’s covert operations in the American drug trade, social justice movement, and medical establishment to sow chaos and decadence in the United States.

agony-deep

[-] newacctidk@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

I first saw it as one of the books facing outward at my local library. ALL of the books in the history, politics, law, and philosophy sections were shit like this

[-] Sulvor@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

Can you even call these books? ‘Unwoke’? Lol

[-] Guamer@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

THE CASE FOR CRIMES

[-] newacctidk@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

Even if they buy AND read all of these, that does not really mean much. These are books meant to be read on the toilet or at an airport, they are all biographies or pophistory/pop-politics. Nothing academic, nothing literary, nothing of weight. Great video skit sorta touching on this with history books specifically

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI5U8ihLVEI

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Right wing books are easier to write, there is a lot more of them.

Left wing books actually require effort to write, and do not have anyone funding ghost writers to churn them out.

[-] courier8377@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

You are never going to find lefter than Bernie at a name brand book store

[-] axont@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Ehh, I've found a Rosa Luxemburg collection at a Half-Price Books. My copy of Jon Lee Anderson's biography of Che Guevara came from a Barnes and Noble too. Anderson isn't really a leftist, but he does give a straightforward and sympathetic biography of Guevara, instead of the normal liberal demonizing.

Depends on where you look.

[-] newacctidk@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

Half-price doesn't count tho. They don't buy those, the people in the area sell those to them. Even then my halfprice has 5 "court of the red tsar"s for every Reminiscences of Lenin or Red Star Over China

[-] axont@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

Yeah that's fair, they're a reseller so you'll find anything there

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