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submitted 2 weeks ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Just about every time J.D. Vance — the most unpopular vice presidential nominee in American history — opens his mouth, he ignites a firestorm of criticism and likely shaves another point off the Republican presidential ticket’s polling numbers.

On Sunday, in an interview with CNN’s Dana Bash, Vance admitted that he and Donald Trump made up a baseless and racist story about Haitian immigrants eating pets in Springfield, Ohio.

“If I have to create stories so that the American media actually has to pay attention to the suffering of American people, then that’s what I’m going to do,” said Vance, a U.S. Senator representing Ohio.

Ironically, Vance’s attempt to point out imagined “suffering” has led to actual suffering by his own constituents.

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[-] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 172 points 2 weeks ago

If they both made it up, why aren't there calls for both to resign?

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 78 points 2 weeks ago

You can't resign from a job you don't have!

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 44 points 2 weeks ago

He can resign from society like Howard Hughes. I wish he would.

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 42 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

And then write Harry Potter style books about himself!

  • President Trump and Roger Stone
  • President Trump and the Chamberpot of Secret Documents
  • President Trump and the Prisoner of Financial Scams
  • President Trump and Everyone's Fired
  • President Trump and the Order of the Hamberder
  • President Trump and the Half-Baked Concept of a Plan
  • President Trump and the Deathly Hollow Promise
[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 7 points 2 weeks ago

I commend your commitment to the gag!

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks! Now that I've got a fan base to disappoint, it's time say something disturbingly sexist or transphobic.

Girls have a button and boys have a pole. Wicked touching takes its toll.

[-] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

This is ridiculous. How do you not already have Holywood breaking down your doors for film rights Σ(゚∀゚ノ)ノ

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[-] merde@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

for that he would need to have some kind of a honor code :/

[-] blackluster117@possumpat.io 6 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe we can reinstitute societal shunning?

[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

We tried to.
Called it cancelling.

[-] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 50 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Well they technically didn’t make it up. They are repeating the words from a Neo-Nazi group called Blood Tribe who were marching through Springfield with Swastika flags.

Could actually be worse than just making it up.

Source

[-] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

Instead of being a dumbass that's a bit racist, he's a mouthpiece for Nazi propaganda. That's a whole lot worse than making it up.

[-] DokPsy@infosec.pub 4 points 2 weeks ago

And entirely on brand

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago

I've seen this repeated a few times and I don't think it really holds up. Drake Berentz (who gives his name as Nate Haggers because racists think that's funny) did not really mention anything about eating pets. The guy is a piece of shit and maybe they helped spread the initial post but that piece of shit's words at the council meeting are not the source. It really just seems to stem from the casually racist Karen on social media who is sad now that everything has blown up.

Although if Berentz (who is a carnie) is the one who made the fake 911 call back in late August about Haitians eating geese in the park, I am clearly wrong.

[-] ultranaut@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

I was reading about those Blood Tribe assholes, they are a Nazi gang that moved into the area about a year ago specifically to stir up hatred in the community.

[-] QBertReynolds@sh.itjust.works 47 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Because only one of them is actively serving as a US Senator for Ohio, the state in which the supposed migrant pet eating crisis is taking place. The other doesn't have a job to resign from.

[-] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Ohhhhh, that makes sense. It would probably help if I read the article, but I hate giving these people clicks. I thought the headline was talking about resigning from running for VP.

[-] ug02x@programming.dev 15 points 2 weeks ago

A conservative king can lie as he pleases it would seem, but apparently their VPs are expendable.

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

We already learned that in the aftermath of Jan 6th.

My question is why do these people continue lining up to serve said “king”?

[-] ug02x@programming.dev 5 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe that's why they ended up with Vance as the pick? A relative newcomer who'd risk getting sacrificed to become a more hosehold name? I can certainly imagine others looking on at the at end of Pence's tenure and choosing to avoid the position.

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

If anything, I’d imagine they picked Vance because he was willing and eager to do whatever it takes to win.

There were a number of other choices lined up too: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/trump-vp-pick-2024-candidates-odds.html

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 117 points 2 weeks ago

Republican VP candidates are raping Ohio's children.

Oh that's made up? Doesn't matter because it brings attention to a very important issue.

[-] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 weeks ago

Republican politicians and voters are conspiring to harm innocent people by making up false rumours about them being dangerous, inciting violence against them.

"Oh, okay, but I don't care. As long as the right people are hurt!"

 

This is a large part of why I don't feel emotionally connect to the concept of being a member of humanity.

[-] Huckledebuck@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is a large part of why I don't feel emotionally connect to the concept of being a member of humanity.

You are, they aren't.

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 48 points 2 weeks ago

I'll bet he also made up the story about not fucking a couch.

[-] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 weeks ago

Some stories just sound more believable than others.

[-] JWBananas@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago

He thinks it's okay to make up harmful stories because the late night comedians won't leave the couch thing alone. What a maroon.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe they'd leave it alone if he left the couches alone.

[-] normalexit@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago

I wonder if this is just damage control for Trump? JD is pure slime, but I wouldn't be surprised if he is just being thrown under the bus on this one, since it seems to be sticking as the dumbest part of the debate.

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 16 points 2 weeks ago

Vance posted the lie days before Trump lost his damn mind in the debate.

It might have been both of them, but Vance was way out front of it.

[-] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

Nah let him cook (himself). If they swap him for someone else things might actually go better for Trump.

[-] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

Resign from the senate.

Rather than just going back to that job after the campaign.

This campaign is literally zero cost for him as it stands. He's a senator and will continue being a senator if he loses.

He should be forced to resign for things he's done and admitted doing publicly.

[-] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago
[-] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 weeks ago

Resigning requires feeling shame for your actions. Vance has absolutely no shame.

Keep in mind that his private communications have leaked. He talked about what a monster Trump is for making immigrants feel unwelcome and unsafe.

Vance is not like Trump. Trump was raised to be a monster and not intelligent enough to question anything. Vance, OTOH, is smart enough to know better. He chose to be this person. He willingly, voluntarily sold his soul to the MAGA devil. That’s why looking at him and listening to him makes people’s skin crawl. There was a person in there once who was forcibly evicted in favor of a monster.

[-] archonet@lemy.lol 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is exactly why he gives me the heebie jeebies. That fuck would sell out his own mother for a Klondike bar.

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[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Kind of want this limp dick idiot to stick around. The more damage he does the funnier and better it is for all of the sane(ish) people in our country.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 weeks ago

But no calls for Trump to resign?

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[-] protist@mander.xyz 15 points 2 weeks ago

When confronted with his assertion that he created a story, Vance — after a long pause of on-air silence — backpedaled, saying he “created the American media focusing on it,” and continued to insist that the story came from “first-hand accounts,” which has been proven false.

Where is this video? I really want to see his facial expression during this long pause

God this article is annoying to read.

What did Vance actually say ?

Did he say something analogous to "I admit that I created the pet-eating story about immigrants" ? Who knows?

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago

“If I have to create stories so that the American media actually has to pay attention to the suffering of American people, then that’s what I’m going to do”

i haven't seen the full interview but that's probably all there is to it

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[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Who would he even be replaced with?

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[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Honestly, I wonder if Trump just wants to pick people who are not to famous so he can keep all the attention on himself.

[-] SerotoninSwells@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

I hear the headless body of Spiro Agnew is on the shortlist.

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[-] wildcardology@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

I didn't know Vance until he was picked as running mate. My list of people with punchable face keeps getting longer.

Didn't he write a book about his life growing up, and the suffering of the American people near him? And then leverage that into a political career?

Wonder how much bullshit was in there, too. (If you haven't, the answer is "pretty much most of it".)

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Not near him. In Appalachia, where he did not grow up.

He also used a ton of insulting stereotypes about Appalachians.

I read it as soon as it came out, even before it had become just a huge book, because I was raised really close to where his grandparents are from. And as soon as I read it, my antenna’s going up all over the place, because we’re not even three or four pages in and he’s already generalizing. For instance, there’s a scene where he talks about his uncles, who are these drunks who fight everybody and they beat their wives, and then he calls them the embodiment of the Appalachian man. Well, as an Appalachian man, that’s deeply troubling to me, because that doesn’t embody Appalachian masculinity as I know it. It does embody the stereotypes of Appalachian masculinity over the last 150 years of media. And that’s sort of what I mean. It just sort of presses the buttons that are already there and made people feel really satisfied, in that it’s sort of like, “Oh, well, I knew this all along, and now somebody is solidifying it for me.”

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/06/jd-vance-book-dangerous-00030374

(That's from an academic who studies Appalachian culture, incidentally)

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[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Why are we giving Trump an excuse to drop his failure of a running mate?

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

I thought the calls were for Vance to resign from the the Ohio Senator position.

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