566
submitted 2 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

A bombshell filing out of Donald Trump’s election subversion case was unsealed Wednesday, revealing a trove of damning allegations about how the former president acted on and around Jan. 6, 2021. 

Among the nastiest accusations in the 165-page document was how Trump allegedly reacted to learning from an aide that his vice president, Mike Pence, had been taken to a secure location in the U.S. Capitol for his safety. 

Trump’s alleged response to that news: “So what?”


🗳️ Register to vote: https://vote.gov/

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 169 points 2 months ago

I'd be really disappointed if that's indeed the nastiest thing in the revealed documents

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 63 points 2 months ago

It's not. It further proves things like his acknoledement of guilt, how he fired those who spoke truth about no proof of cheating, how Ken Chesebro himself called his alternate lists of electors fake and how it was just a ploy to give DonOld the opportunity to say they won and are working with the courts.

There are a lot of interesting and impactful details throughout the filing and another 200+pg brief is set to drop in the next few weeks from Chutkan with more of this stuff including testimonies

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

This is why is so dangerous calling him dumb. It brings that benefit of the doubt, that "he didn't know that this is not allowed", that "he is just dumb and did not know better", "he can't control himself" etc etc.

He then exploits every single opportunity given and avoids any punishment (he still did not get any!)

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

He is dumb. The problem is smart conmen and fascists want to fleece his flock, and the easiest way to access his sheep is to cut the shepherd in on the profit.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 months ago

Nowhere in the rules does it say ~~dogs can't play basketball~~ the president can't talk their cult into marching onto the capitol with the intention of hanging their own VP.

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

He is dumb. Hitler was an idiot, too.

Being a moron makes autocrats more dangerous, not less, because they’re more easily swayed by evil opportunists, and are more likely to make deadly, impulsive decisions without thinking them through.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] Soup@lemmy.cafe 10 points 2 months ago

He’s said and done far worse directly in front of a camera. Behind closed doors? I wouldn’t be surprised if he was shooting tied-down kittens in front of school children.

[-] wowbagger@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

You mean shooting down school children in front of tied-down kittens...

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 92 points 2 months ago

Name one person trump actually gives a fuck about other than himself. This isn’t a bombshell, it’s a giant fucking DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH moment.

[-] ZeroCool@slrpnk.net 46 points 2 months ago

Ivanka. He really likes Ivanka.

[-] hypeerror@sh.itjust.works 43 points 2 months ago

He'd still set her on fire and watch her die if it meant returning to power and avoiding prison.

[-] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 23 points 2 months ago

He'd set her on fire if he was cold enough

[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

That’s still just narcissism.

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Trump’s heartless reaction to Pence being in danger revealed in bombshell filing

This isn’t a bombshell

yes it is bud, just because you don't have the patience to read the filing doesn't mean the rest of us don't either. There are important new details that the public has not heard about that absolutely matters in regards to his state of mind and intention based on what he was made aware of. This headline is talking about a small example of the contents.

No, this isn't gonna change MAGA's mind but it is still very important for the upcoming case that will not happen until after the election (which is yet another reason as to why it DOES matter.) Americans have the right to know about this stuff before the election and Chutkan has made that happen.

[-] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

Right, but this specifically the pence thing isn't the bombshell so it's a weird thing to pick out here

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] ABCDE@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

There are important new details that the public has not heard about

Like what?

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

Comment up thread from the same user:

It's not. It further proves things like his acknoledement of guilt, how he fired those who spoke truth about no proof of cheating, how Ken Chesebro himself called his alternate lists of electors fake and how it was just a ploy to give DonOld the opportunity to say they won and are working with the courts.

There are a lot of interesting and impactful details throughout the filing and another 200+pg brief is set to drop in the next few weeks from Chutkan with more of this stuff including testimonies

[-] Soup@lemmy.cafe 4 points 2 months ago

He loves his Putie-pie. Let’s never forget that.

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 57 points 2 months ago

Imagine being JD Vance, looking at all of the people smarter and more experienced than him with their shattered careers after working for Trump, and thinking "But I'm the one who will figure out how to ride this tiger to my own advantage!"

Rudy Giuliani went from being "America's mayor" to being an absolute fucking laughingstock, a man so generally reviled that he couldn't sustain an appearance on The Masked Singer.

Anyone, literally anyone at any level, at this point who thinks that Trump won't throw them under the bus at his earliest convenience is just actively seeking their own destruction.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

It's probably the best chance Vance has at the presidency. Roughly 50/50 that Trump wins, and I'd say there is about an 80% chance that Trump dies in office or gets 25th'd after a stroke. Those are pretty tempting odds to get in the presidency. Vance doesn't have enough pull with hate groups to get the Republicans nomination.

[-] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

Roughly 50/50 that Trump wins,

Don't you put that evil on us Ricky Bobby

I'd say there is about an 80% chance that Trump dies in office

Honestly I'd say it's that likely he dies on golf course

[-] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

My guess is that's the plan all along. When Trump said he'll be a dictator "but only on day one", he meant Vance would be a dictator going forward.

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Man I didn’t even think about that and I’m now I’m even more upset, anxious, and worried

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Vance is like the bizarro LBJ. Johnson's sole goal in life was to become President but he had absolutely no shot at it because he only had pull with hate groups (the racist South). Without question, he only got into the Oval Office because of a bullet to Kennedy's head. Kind of amazing that in 2024 locking up the hate group vote is enough to get not only the Republican nomination but also the Presidency.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

To them, hate has been rebranded (or not depending on which political historian you talk to) as American tradition.

I don't hate gays, but it goes against American tradition.

I don't hate black people, but CRT poisons kids against American tradition.

I don't hate immigrants, but they bring their own culture instead of accepting American tradition.

Those are all sentiments I've heard from the (not quite as insane) right. It's horseblinders that let them march to the conservative drum, without seeing the neonazis and klansmen next to them.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Classic leopards ate my face dilemma

[-] BambiDiego@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

It's hard to value a face when you're so used to having two of them.

[-] KreekyBonez@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

what?! the guy who bankrupted a casino for short-term real estate gains? not a trustworthy partner? how could it be?

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Quick correction: he bankrupted multiple casinos, at least some of which were fronts for Russian money laundering.

e: formatting

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] UnpopularCrow@lemmy.world 48 points 2 months ago

In order for any of this document to contain “damning allegations” would require anyone who is already voting for Trump to have morals, critical thinking skills, and/or common sense. I would argue the influence this entire document has on voting intentions is in the single digits … and not percentage points.

That said, I’m still glad they released it.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

In this case, “damning allegations” refers to legal damnations, not popular opinion.

[-] UnpopularCrow@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I would love to believe that, but laws don’t apply to the wealthy and powerful in the USA. Trump has committed countless crimes and he is still running for president with a coin toss chance of winning despite sedition and treason. I’ll eat my words if he is ever convicted of anything that actually puts him in jail. But I highly doubt this document changes anything.

[-] Bertuccio@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

While sedation is also accurate, I suspect you meant sedition.

[-] UnpopularCrow@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

One day I will learn to spell!

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

I've written about this story so many times since 2015.

Conservative woman went on The View TV show to defend Donnie after the 'pussy grabber' tape came out.

Another panelist kept saying 'pussy' over and over.

Finally the MAGoo woman had to ask her to stop using that offensive term.

They know what he is, and they don't care.

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago

The only other human he cares about is the daughter he hopes to fuck.

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 months ago
[-] pyre@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

says allegedly 5 times but two of these were on air. only 3 are alleged.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago
[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

Trump's thoughts on Pence on Jan 6th:

[-] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Getting real tired of these titles using the 'bombshell' descriptor. Anybody here really shell-shocked by these allegations? No? Is it simply yet another bunch of criminal acts to throw on the litany of accusations he is absurdly unlikely to pay for or even budge the needle on his approval rating in the law-and-order party?

Only bombshell for me would be a real image of him in prison orange behind bars.

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

This is not new information.

[-] Akasazh@feddit.nl 6 points 2 months ago

Bombshells are not exactly newfangled technology

[-] Kingofthezyx@lemm.ee 13 points 2 months ago

Trump’s Heartless ~~Reaction to Pence Being in Danger Revealed in Bombshell Filing~~

Much more concise

load more comments (3 replies)
[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Well, duh. Trump WANTED him dead.

[-] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

B O M B S H E L L

Close cousin of S L A M M E D

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

There were many years in the Trump Presidency I was looking for smoking guns... there are more smoking guns presented in this filing than all Clint Eastwood movies combined.

load more comments
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 02 Oct 2024
566 points (99.1% liked)

politics

19238 readers
3218 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS