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[-] VonCesaw@lemmy.world 137 points 2 months ago

For the record, the study they're likely citing was the one that tested less than 15 kids, 3 or more of which did NOT have autism, and the then-doctor permanently crippled one of them in the process of testing for the digestive-neural autism link

(The entire study exists because he wanted to discredit a vaccine to sell his own)

[-] tabris@lemmy.world 40 points 2 months ago

Ah, following in Wakefield's steps. Good to see the grifters and charlatans don't change, but it is sad that people keep falling for it.

[-] VonCesaw@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

They're likely citing Wakefield, he's been having a resurgence in US media

[-] tabris@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago
[-] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 31 points 2 months ago

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10017995/

There have been 5 studies that all seem to show a positive link.

But way way more reseach is needed.

[-] VonCesaw@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Gut disorders are correlated with autism

Autism is not correlated with gut disorder

That is both the research and the current scientific consensus

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Also remember that correlation isn't causation. Trust me, every autistic person in the West has heard all about how we just need to adjust our gut biome and suddenly we won't be autistic, or we just need to go vegan, or any of a thousand other wonder cures. These cures have been touted since the 1900s, and the people they "work" on are generally agreed to just have learnt to mask better because almost every "treatment", no matter how benign, is horrible to deal with.

[-] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The research shows a decrease in symptoms after the procedure and nothing more or less.

It doesn't say anything about gut disorder or why they could be linked.

[-] ziggurat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Positive link? Does that mean more autism symptoms?

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 120 points 2 months ago

What does a reduction in Autism “symptoms” even mean - We uninstall Arch?

[-] r00ty@kbin.life 64 points 2 months ago

No, you just stop telling everyone else about it.

[-] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

"I un-installed Arch, btw"

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[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

Maybe more susceptibility to advertisement?

[-] DerArzt@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Uninstall Gentoo, duh

[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

Water no longer feels as splish-splashy

[-] HonkTonkWoman@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

Can confirm. Water now feels ouch-bangey, with an occasional splat-sticky mixed in.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

It could fix certain GI issues, which either autistic people are more sensitive to or are unable to communicate.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 47 points 2 months ago

Once again, the science piles up behind my "we're just LLMs running on the mecha suit controlled by bacteria" theory

[-] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 30 points 2 months ago

Well neural networks (the construct LLMs use) is modelled on how neurons process information. Just in incredibly simplified form.

And I'm pretty sure most scientists agree that humans are actually a colony of many different species given how we rely on bacteria to live.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 5 points 2 months ago

Oh, the metaphor goes further. We're not the pilot of the suit, we're not the hardware, we're not the OS of the suit, we're the AI assistant

We speak for it with the other AIs, we get called up to handle things we don't have learned behaviors for, we analyze and provide feedback - we give advice and it feels like we're making decisions, but we're not

[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

We are literally 10 times more bacteria than human cells in the human body.

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

"We." Are you referring to people, or is that the bacteria self-identifying as plural?

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[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago

I think OOP might be full of shit

[-] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

I agree, functional programming is the future

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Too bad I only do nonfunctional programming.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

This guy Fortrans

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[-] hashferret@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago

FYI fecal transplants are a thing and they address unhealthy microbiomes in the body. Someone else's shit could literally save your life from a c diff infection.

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 5 points 2 months ago

Trouble is that we don't know enough about it. Especially how to find a good donor.

[-] i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 months ago

Sorry I'm late for work, boss. I made a spontaneous intrabraccael fecal donation on the way to work.

[-] HonkTonkWoman@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

So we’re just abandoning the time tested “if it’s brown, send it down” protocol?

I mean… if we can’t trust that brown poop is good poop anymore, which way is up?

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Nah, that remains, we're just putting the autistic people downstream.

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[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

For people with IBD or IBS, they're practically the holy grail, if the initial reports are to be believed.

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 33 points 2 months ago

Research like this gives me hope for people like my severely autistic son who has been missing development milestone after development milestone so a fear of mine is that he might eventually have to live in a group home once he's strong enough to overpower us. If a treatment like this can manage symptoms enough to allow him to live independently that would be literally life changing

[-] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

It's for gut issues like crohns not anything to do with emotional regulation or communication.

Group homes are as good as their staff, interview everyone there. Visit him often. Living independently is not always for the best.

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 3 points 2 months ago

Ehhh I should've figured info from a source like this would be woefully misrepresented

[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago
[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

This shit is retarded

[-] DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online 15 points 2 months ago

I've been reading research on the gut micro biome for years and all this stuff related to it's effects on the brain and overall health. We joke, but I legit don't think we're too far from pro and pre biotic enemas becoming a regular treatment

[-] Num10ck@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

grab a celebrity and a venture capitalist, and spin it up!

[-] DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online 8 points 2 months ago

Ooh, I bet Gwyneth Paltrow would be into it!

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I dream of making millions by selling Belle Delphine home fecal transplant kits.

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[-] ch00f@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago
[-] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Forever....

[-] ProIsh@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Hmmm, I thought it was a poop knife.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I thought it was a cum sock.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Maybe it’s Maybelline

[-] oldfaintinggoat@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

*do not try this at home

[-] dramaticcat@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago
[-] wesker 3 points 2 months ago

I am hella indifferent to the idea of a poop sock.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

and made you eat it, as a cure

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