By all rights, this kid should be in prison. Since we couldn’t do that, shunning him relentlessly will have to do.
And punishing any organization that platforms him.
Looks like people can get refunds up until a week before the event. I hope they are taking advantage.
I was browsing newest comments for the lulz, and saw your comment without the context. I knew it would be that douche.
Woah I didn't know you could browse lemmy by comments. That's a whole new zone of content. Scaled still doesn't make sense.
Yeah, at least on PC.
How fucking tone deaf to have a wanna be vigilante, who terrorized people on our own soil, and who killed innocent Americans, be a guest speaker for a charity event benefiting veterans and first responders with ptsd. Honestly, it's insulting
Edit: also what the fuck, the ceo said the people who are calling out the bad choice are "mentally ill". I am a veteran with ptsd, I know I'm mentally ill. Don't fucking diminish my struggle because you don't like people bringing up valid concerns. Someone needs to smash a guitar over that fuckwad's head
Now that’s punk
also what the fuck, the ceo said the people who are calling out the bad choice are "mentally ill".
I think saying mentally ill is them trying to say the R slur without saying it.
On Instagram, Shell Shock founder and CEO Tyler Hoover rebuffed the bands ditching the festival, and those criticizing it, saying, “I’m here to tell you, you’re not punk, you’re not hardcore. You people, the people that are trolling and the people that are talking shit, you guys are the mentally ill portion of society. You guys are the ones that are manipulated.”
and CEO
Dude is the opposite of punk, and a victim of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
You know that line from Don Henley's song "Boys of Summer" that went:
Out on the road today
I saw a Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac
That's this guy.
More the Ataris’ cover:
Out on the road today
I saw a Black Flag sticker on a Cadillac
While I'm firmly in the "The Ataris' cover was better than Henley's version" camp, and I get the punk/Black Flag connection for this particular comparison, I feel that in general the original gets the point across better. I think more people would have gotten the dissonance of a Caddy driver with a Grateful Dead sticker when the original was recorded, versus the cover.
Who else knows punk better than the guy profiting off of it?! (big ass /s)
This CEOs comment is as far removed from punk as possible. I mean that’s like saying Reagan was punk. Opposite ends of the spectrum. I fear these pieces of shit are going to start pushing Nazi punk. Nazi punks fuck off!
Maybe he only listens to neonazi punk?
Neonazi Punks Fuck Off!
The CEO of punk.
I vomited a little.
Like "Leader of Anonymous" or "President of the Anarchy Club".
Tyler Hoover is part of the machine and represents The Man, most square and uncool. Can't trust Tyler Hoover to understand why he is part of the problem because he isn't smart enough for self reflection.
I would LOVE to meet this guy in a moshpit. Easiest crowdkill in history.
If veteran charities could stop trying to align with fascists this veteran would be a lot happier. I have PTSD and I don't want a dime of this money. That dumbfuck created his situation and killed someone over property that wasn't his after threatening to kill protestors. The only reason he isn't locked up is because the judge is as fascist as he is.
I lost 4,000 friends fighting Authoritarianism and Religious Extremism. I'm not sure where the fuck anyone thinks it's a good idea to associate us with far right stuff except for the guys trying to recruit us.
In addition to murder, Kyle also used a gun that he obtained illegally from a friend as a minor and crossed state lines with illegally.
But his ~~victim~~assailant had a skateboard. Was that skateboard obtained illegally? Did they cross state lines with the skateboard? If they did, then clearly they deserved to be killed.
The only way to stop a good guy with a skateboard is a bad guy with a gun!
70% With TDIU here and 100% agree.
That chinless murderer can't fade away quick enough.
I can't think of anything less metal than this loudmouth, crybaby murderer
How could this chinless monster be any less counter culture than murdering 'undesirables' while shielded by cops and the republican establishment?
Nazi punks fuck off!
As a veteran, I get the worst shit thrown at me. All the ads for black rifle coffee and the worst "for men" products. Also, they just assume I’ll vote republican so all the bs that comes with that assumption.
They haven’t really missed until my generation so I get it. A lot of the vets from the 90s and further back are pretty "conservative" to the point that I avoid them at the VA and won’t join those socials anymore.
I feel you. I like to shoot, gardening, and woodworking. Aparently, that makes me a prepper and a fundie. I just want tomatoes and pretty begonias. I purposefully watch leftist stuff on YouTube to "reset" their algo. Works for a few months.
...the only veterans i know who support fascist values are either stolen-valor opportunists or television-brainwashed senile geriatrics...
...all the real veterans i've known who still enjoy command of their faculties support legitimate american values instead...
You must be tone deaf if you think metal bands are going to stand for this sort of shit.
I dunno, I think Iced Earth would be down. If the sole remaining member wasn't still in prison, that is.
There's always some oddballs, unfortunately.
"Nazi punks fuck off" implies Nazi punks have to exist.
Good on Evergreen Terrace. If you didn't know, they rip and you should listen to them.
The fact that one of the only replacements they could find is a Slipknot cover band is hilarious
dude invites a fascist and then tries to tell punks that they're not punk when they do the second most punk thing they could do, the first being punching him in the face.
He deliberately brought a gun to a situation where he knew he could provoke an altercation. The only part of his actions that weren't premeditated was the people he shot.
Anyone willingly associating themself with this cretin is likewise also despicable.
Let Me Bleed said, “Though we are advocates of free speech we are collectively not a political band.“
This would be funny if it wasn’t so fucking dumb.
I commend the other bands for not dropping out, as it really does save us a lot of effort Googling to see if somebody is a Nazi band or not.
It's crazy how many metal bands are pieces of shit and then how simultaneously so many are so accepting and defend humanity with their actions.
You get good and bad apples in every genre of music.
I moreso meant from the metal culture itself. Each genre has inflections that create that like-minded sense of community, so for a community that loves darkness, twistedness, and a wide range of what some consider evil, I find it very funny how the majority of metal, despite this darkness, is often very humorous, loving, and joyful, all while the bands name is Cannibal Corpse or something like that.
Meanwhile you've got nonces like Lost Prophets who end up living up to that evilness more than people realized.
So I was coming at it from the cultural lens, with each genre having a different interaction of "bad apples". In rap we're seeing another example right now, in rock it's been happening since forever from Zeppelin to the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Basically I was laughing at the irony of true evil in a metal band. Because true evil exists in all musicians, country, rap, rock, but because of the affiliation metal has with evilness, you would think metalheads would be predisposed to being worse about it. The reality is just the opposite, so it's funny.
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