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[-] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 hour ago

Capitalism can't help anyone out of poverty at least not without exploiting masses.

[-] Noodle07@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Just exploit the whites? Big brain

[-] Digital_man@lemmy.one 36 points 3 hours ago

White capitalism is what made black people slaves and pushed them into poverty.

Perhaps we need new ideas that help everyone.

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 40 points 3 hours ago

White capitalism

This is just called capitalism.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 7 points 3 hours ago

I mean, it gives deference to rich people, but when it was legal to discriminate against POC, they had a massive disadvantage in pretty much every aspect of their lives. Not perfect, but much improved now...

[-] Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz -2 points 2 hours ago

Africans enslaved and sold other Africans by the millions for centuries before white people arrived on the continent. Though they certainly made it worse when they did.

[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 13 points 3 hours ago

Capitalism has race now? Or are they suggesting to use race as a product?

[-] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 hours ago

"Black capitalism" is historically the approach of some African American* communities and individuals to resist racial oppression by embracing capitalism and out-competing whites in it, essentially. This met its most famous manifestation in Tulsa, Oklahoma, which developed a wealthy black capitalist class, but neighboring white towns got mad at this and basically leveled a good portion of the town and killed many people. For reasons beyond me, some liberals hold up Tulsa as some wonderful thing and proof that black people should just be more engaged in capitalism, and they ignore how the experiment ended.

The most famous "black capitalism" proponent is the Jamaican-born American Marcus Garvey, who some Rastafarians worship as a prophet. To poison the well immediately, he was supported by the KKK in his projects to send African Americans "back to" Africa, because their ideologies and aims of ethnonationalism broadly aligned.

*It's mostly an American thing, but it's not exclusively an American thing by any means

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

For reasons beyond me, some liberals hold up Tulsa as some wonderful thing and proof that black people should just be more engaged in capitalism, and they ignore how the experiment ended.

The easy answer is that racism destroyed Tulsa, not capitalism. Were it not for racist fucks, that experiment would have worked wonderfully. But that's a tale as old as time, unfortunately.

[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 1 points 2 hours ago

So.. corporate collusion between black businesses owners? I suppose that would equalize the market a bit if they do manage to kick down corps like amazon

[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 6 points 3 hours ago

Capitalism has always had a form of race, but it's a social hierarchy.

Class.

It has always been class. The lie that gets sold to middle America is that one day, they too will be of a higher class.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago

You know that's really a brilliant rebuttal.

[-] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 hours ago

Or maybe race doesn't really exist outside our dumb little brains and capitalism was the real problem all along

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Not to imply that ethnic/cultural tensions never existed before in history, but capitalism created racism as a tool of oppression, and of pitting working class people against each other.

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Capitalism or socialism or anything else is irrelevant when most people are dumb, easy to manipulate and ready to harm others. There will always be someone willing to be a leader of these people, harming others to gain something.

[-] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

Brains are part of the world, and so are human behaviors. So long as racism exists, race as a sociological category is undeniably real.

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 7 points 3 hours ago

I mean, it helped bolster rationale for enslaving black people. It's fair to say that capitalism tips the scales, steals your car, and then runs over your neighbor before disappearing with your spouse and your dog/cat.

[-] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 hours ago

It didn't just bolster the rationale for enslaving black people, it largely executed the Transatlantic Slave Trade. Those boats weren't publicaly owned, and neither were the captured slaves, the slavers were entrepreneurs and their employees doing business.

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Thank fuck.

White people get pegged for rich people bullshit too much.

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