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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 132 points 2 months ago

All he's doing is making worse trains and busses. This isn't innovative. Its a waste of fucken time. Make trains and busses.

[-] dojan@lemmy.world 96 points 2 months ago

Respectfully, I don't want to see any trains or buses made under his guidance.

[-] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 months ago
[-] dojan@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

My roomie is a trucker. He has laughed so much at the Tesla semitruck because it kind of fails at everything a truck is meant to do.

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Technically, it's far less explosive than a gasoline powered vehicle. However, batteries are very hard to extinguish if they catch fire.

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Any fires are the product of a technical malfunction, and those are very easy to either mitigate, and, especially, engineer beyond.

Gasoline will always be flammable, and using it as a fuel source will always present certain concerns and risks. Measured against battery technology, however, it’s kind of a no-brainer as to which is much more safe.

Even Toyota’s hydrogen fuel cells (unquestionably more explosive than any battery or gasoline powered vehicle) are now technically safer than gasoline powered vehicles, just because of their amazing containment pods for the hydrogen fuel. Again, this sort of thing is just an engineering problem, not a problem with developing new resources and/or new techniques of harnessing their energy output.

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[-] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 85 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

We just have to apply Leon math. He says 2-3 years, so that's 7 to 10 in reality. It will also cost 5x what is expected and be missing 60% of features at launch. Plus it'll have new features, like it will have a steering wheel and peddles and require driver input every 15 miles or so.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 30 points 2 months ago

And the 40% of features that are there will only work half the time.

[-] Omgboom@lemmy.zip 31 points 2 months ago

And be locked behind a subscription

[-] fpslem@lemmy.world 56 points 2 months ago

Cybercabs are two-seater vehicles

Just two seats why? Has this so-called genius ever taken a cab with friends ever?

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 47 points 2 months ago

That's hilarious. He gets rid of the driver, so now instead of an extra seat there's 3 less seats compared to a conventional cab.

This guy is so out of touch that he doesn't even know people that could tell him that.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago

Which is impressive since itd be the first place my mind would go to for space utilization, mind you I dont think this stupid cab will ever be a working thing outside of prototypes but still.

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Don’t worry I’m sure he’ll get loads of investments for it and get a city to shut down their public transport in some way before he cancels the project.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 26 points 2 months ago

Friends? What does that mean?

Dude famously hates being around other people, that’s why he hates transit so much. I’m sure in his mind it makes perfect sense.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 49 points 2 months ago

Anyone else expecting a $100,000 "RoboBeast" in eight years and no mention of the $30,000 version ever again?

Like all techbros, Elon wants to paint himself as some kind of visionary genius. Instead they're all just anti-regulatory right-wingers who just poorly regurgitate better people's ideas. Elon's already run this playbook before so we know he's gonna do it again.

[-] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago

This is what I don't get, I can also just say 'visionary' things by just opening any sci-fi book and pointing at a random page and claiming that I want to make that.

The hard part isn't envisioning cool sci-fi concepts like self driving cars, colonized planets, ai servants, and life like VR. The hard part is actually doing them.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Actually paying attention to the sci-fi you're consuming would give you an advantage over Musk. He says he loves the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, a series which spends a lot of time mocking corporate executives and corporate marketing. It's also a series where every AI is either an asshole, malfunctioning or both.

He also thinks the main character in Blade Runner is named Bladerunner despite the fact that Deckard's name is said like 10 times in the movie.

https://futurism.com/the-byte/elon-musk-main-character-blade-runner

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[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago

"Always your car," is corporate speak for "you will be liable for whatever it does."

[-] teft@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago

Right beside full self driving? Is this like the classic “fusion is just 5 years away”?

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Hey, at least we have actually accomplished (edit: net-positive) fusion. 10-20 years before the first commercial plant comes online, but fusion is a technology which now exists. This is extremely awesome. Honestly, I never thought I’d see it. But, it’s here, it exists, and now the distance between today and when the first power plant comes online is just a matter of scaling the tech upwards.

Full, autonomous self-driving cabs - especially from Tesla - on a massive scale… not so much.

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[-] oxjox@lemmy.ml 32 points 2 months ago

In the video, when he's talking about the robot Optimus, he claims that at scale this will cost $20-30K and goes on to say "this will be the biggest product ever of any kind" and "everyone of the 8 billion people one earth will want their Optimus buddy".

Dude. Most people on this planet can barely afford a $1,000 smart phone.

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

“Let them eat cake”

— another famous rich person, shortly before she got what she deserved.

[-] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 months ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_them_eat_cake

Appears not to be the case. I was curious about the full context, and that context is that it almost certainly didn't actually happen.

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Hush, you ;)

But, yes, Marie Antoinette probably never said it. Jean-Jacques Rousseau very likely made it up.

Nonetheless, it’s prescient legend.

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[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 months ago

All Tesla shareholders and twitter users asked to hold their breath until then.

[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago

The stock dropped 7% so I guess not everyone is

[-] oakey66@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago
[-] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

The robot taxi and the bus thing both depend on FSD working well, so maybe they'll be ready in like 20 or 30 years.

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Although skeptical, and especially disliking Elon musk, this is merely speculative. It could take five years, or it could take 25 years. We just don’t know yet. However, unlike fusion, we’ve never achieved FSD yet. But, like fusion, I’m sure we will.

Just not yet, and, I hope, not a product of an Elon Musk company.

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[-] jonne@infosec.pub 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They'll do what every AI company does and have guys in India do the actual driving 'until the technology is ready', like how the Amazon grab and go stores were implemented.

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[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

I love that at least some of the press is finally calling Elon on his bullshit. The ArsTechnica review of this event was particularly delicious.

[-] DontMakeMoreBabies@lemm.ee 16 points 2 months ago

These things and the trucks are so damn ugly... Who the hell watched 80s sci-fi and was like "Yes! Give me that aesthetic."

[-] athairmor@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Not even good 80s sci-fi. That truck looks like it came from a low-budget Star Wars or Mad Max ripoff.

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[-] RightEdofer@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

It’s because they do it so poorly. It’s cost-cutting masquerading as innovation and minimalism. This style has been done well by Giorgetto Giugiaro in the 80s. The Delorean and Maserati Boomerang are undoubtedly beautiful (though certainly a product of their time). These are just cheap cosplay pulling at tech-bro nostalgia.

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[-] synae 12 points 2 months ago

Bruh the streets of San Francisco are packed with waymos carrying passengers today

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

daily reminder that if you were only 10% as bad at your job as billionaires you'd be fucking fired in an instant.

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Well FSD is just right around the corner after all!

But in all seriousness, if his shitty candidate and party he endorses wins, they honestly probably will be on the roads in a few years time.

[-] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If things are at least progressing somewhat he predicts next year. For Musk to say 2-3 years means the project has hit a brick wall and they're desperate.

[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Preorders start now! Preorder bonus: Dark MAGA hat

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[-] credo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I don’t think it’s hilarious. I think he got his name in the news again, and here we are talking about him.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Not all publicity is good publicity when you're desperate for the world to love you like Elon is.

[-] some_guy 5 points 2 months ago

It’ll be ready next week, I promise.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

“The rule is, jam to-morrow and jam yesterday — but never jam to-day.”

“It must come sometimes to ‘jam to-day,’” Alice objected.

“No, it ca’n’t,” said the Queen. “It’s jam every other day: to-day isn’t any other day, you know.”

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