Cause deep down they understand them. White settlers identifying with other white settlers. Even though they might legitimately disagree with them, fundamentally they don’t see them as a threat to their existence and view the disagreement as purely academic. They understand and are sympathetic to how these people arrived at their views. And really they’re only one hardship away from becoming completely reactionary themselves, as we saw with Covid.

Idk, that’s always been my take.

See also: that episode of the podcast where Amber said "cops are working class" for an hour and a half, aka the one that got me to stop listening.

I miss matt

I hate that so much. "Leftists pushed me to the right." No you were always a piece of shit but didn't realize it until someone accurately called you out on it. Am I supposed to coddle people who are deliberately calling me the wrong pronoun? Am I supposed to be nice to my cousins who are active Klan members?

When I've unionized we've inevitably worked with reactionary people who have incorrect priorities. The best way to get them to shut up is show them they're outnumbered and to tell them to shut the fuck up. Bullying works.

I don't want the approval of fascists, I want them either dead or so afraid of speaking that they don't.

Why are parts of the left like this? Seemingly caring more about courting the psychopath incel who wants a white ethnostate rather than stand in solidarity and antiracism with POC?

Because crackers, 'progressive' or regressive, will always bear water and run defense for white supremacy before they ever consider liberating the subjects of empire that they feel entitled to camaraderie from and companionship with. It never fails. It's the same root from which springs the perennial "we don't have a race issue in Amerika, just a class issue" out of radlibs and anarchists, it's the same root from which springs the "well he was no angel, clearly he deserved it" out of the copsuckers and conservatives.

Crackers will always close ranks around their own before they ever think about reparating or restituting. "Leftists" like Amber are exactly why I don't trust the white left, and only organize with Black formations and organizations anymore.

It's weird how she doesn't apply the same logic to people who hate fascists. They call me the scum of the Earth! Why shouldn't I hate them?

There's definitely a huge difference between her and the rest of Chapo. Like the other three have moved pretty far to the left since the show began that I'm surprised that they still associate with her and have her on as a guest sometimes.

I'm calling them the scum of the earth because they already did hate me and I hate them back. We've been doing this shit back and forth since Bush Jr., I didn't just emerge from the ether and instigate this by calling DeusVult69 a fucking dick out of nowhere in 2016

Being a property owner and small business owner who says extremely offensive things and jokes about killing people at 48 years old…. It’s okay, he didn’t go to college, they don’t know any better

Being a debt ridden queer working two minimum wage jobs unrelated to their college degree at age 26, who thinks everyone being more polite and thoughtful would help society… you idiot, you moron, you disgusting bitch.

She comes out of a trend that primarily exists in the DSA that functionally believes all the same things American Democrats do, just with Medicare for All (which itself is a half-assed liberal pollicy that they latched onto because it wasn't as "scary" as state run healthcare) and Green New Deal haphazardly tacked onto the platform.

They only believe in one thing, their own individual power. They don't care about advancing materially definable working class politics, proletarian revolution, or even some sort of morally righteous politics. Just get more racist so the racists will put them in power and they'll take care of the rest. Many of these people are minorities but they feel vindicated by the pundits saying the Democrats lost because of identity politics because they've taken to the politics of the reactionary proletariat.

They sow the seeds of their own destruction with their opportunism though. Their lazy organizing and blatant opportunism is what has cause the DSA to collapse from its height a few years ago. I'm sure they've seen new growth since then but they'll chase those new people away too.

I wonder if Amber realizes a lot of the times, those fucking white kids are the ones that instigates to the point where POCs have all the right to call them out. No fucking shit they call them scum of the earth when the other side is calling people like me c**** or the usual phrase "go back to where you're from" while we are minding our own business, but I guess we still have to coddle those fuckers for some reason.

Annoying her dogshit takes live rent free in my head and have for some time. I think I could live with her being so annoyingly wrong if she wasn't also so condescending

Tailism. Not even once.

people like amber say shit like this because imo they're desperate to distance themselves from the fascist's made stereotype of left wing people, where we're all overly sensitive, "PC", whatever bullshit you normally hear. just like when someone from a minority group agrees with white supremacists in hopes that they'll be deemed "one of the good ones". i don't know why certain people are just dying to be called "one of the good ones" by the literal worst people on earth. these people ARE the scum of the earth, going around spreading hate, disinformation, cultural and social rot.

She literally hates friendless online Bernie leftists more than she hates reactionaries. I've also heard her speak longlingly about rightoids, but I can specifically remember like 4 different instances of her randomly getting worked up over "leftists with no friends" like a weird fixation. Like if you're a lonely loser leftist, she despises you, but if you just turn 4chan alt right, she suddenly sympathizes with your plight.

Amber is the closest thing we have to a leftist grifter since she built her entire career on saying stupid shit in order to get people angry

I remember when I finally “got” Amb3r. She was talking about Kim Klassic (a young conservative woman) and she was practically writing a love letter to her. It was weird. I then thought back to whenever she would talk about a reactionary, and she would ALWAYS make some excuse for them or find something positive to say about them. She always makes excuses for reactionaries. I stopped listening after that.

I've never been able to satisfactorily sum up what is is exactly that kept me from fully liking her, can't find the right word or phrase to encompass her specific blend of

Some of the people here have such a way with words that listening to them feels as clear and logical as looking at a photo, and I appreciate those people for helping me tease out the contours of my problem with her.

Well, I asked the other day what the deal was with her and why there's so much hate... This pretty well covers it.

Omg whooo cares qbout podcasts theyre all slop garbage blluhhhhhh bkugg

Which conversation was this?