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submitted 4 days ago by cm0002@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.world

I for one have stopped posting any content to lemmy.ml communities.

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[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 20 points 2 days ago

lemmy.ml users reaction:

A scene from Rick and Morty saying "Okay then, that was always allowe!"

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

"We should defederate from everything which does not agree with my .world view and create a giant centralized echo chamber"!

Why the fuck does every .world user suddenly want Lemmy to be Reddit?

[-] SleafordMod@feddit.uk 13 points 3 days ago

Personally I would like to be able to talk to people with different views, in a civil manner. But Lemmy.ml doesn't seem to want that. If you post something that they don't like (even if it's a very moderate view and is expressed in a completely civil way) then they ban you. They seem to really hate moderate people.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Most of the users saying this went around screaming the word Tankie all over the place on .ml.

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[-] wpb@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Why would you want to create an echo chamber? I genuinely don't get it, it's the internet, if you encounter an opinion you disagree with, literally just close the tab and it's gone

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 days ago

Most people on here don't mind being exposed to different viewpoints. If you ask me, even some - or even most, IDK - tankies are fine to talk to, even argue with, as they are usually civil.

The problem is that there are a lot of users on the *.ml instances who are not interested in debate, they just keep repeating the same 2-3 slogans over and over again in smug superiority as a reply to everything, and mods ban people randomly the same way.

When you meet some users who reply "you are misled by Western media" to anything you say as a final and incontrovertible argument, that's not a good faith debate I'm willing to participate in.

The problem is not the differing opinions, but the differing norms for polite conversation and good faith arguments.

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[-] hierophant_nihilant@reddthat.com 51 points 3 days ago

Listen. Just fuckin listen to me. The moment I joined lemmy every enthusiast was singing praise to the fediverse and how it's easy to maintain the freedom of speach and yada yada yada. What it turned out to be is just constant quarrels between instances, defederations and crap like that while lemmy still fucking struggles to even become a mere shadow of reddit. I fucking hate reddit, I think spez should be covered in fire ants, but by god, looking at how insufferable most vocal lemmy users are, I may get back to reddit, probably as many other lemmy users already did.

[-] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago

If it helps, most of this inter-instance drama comes from a surprisingly small group of people. I've blocked most of them (looks like I missed the OP here) and it's much quieter now. Looking at my block list, they're mostly from .world, but that could be due to the large population.

[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It is easy to maintain freedom of speech on Lemmy. The idea that your instance can defederate from instances like Lemmy.ml, but everyone on Lemmy.ml can continue to post on their own server, and federate with any other given server by default is the entire point of federation and proof of concept that the fediverse is great for free speech. You’re under the impression that all Lemmy servers are supposed to be part of one big whole, but that’s not what the fediverse is for.

You have to understand that “free speech” is a negative freedom and it doesn’t mean everyone has to listen to you. It just means nobody can force you not to speak.

[-] falcunculus@jlai.lu 18 points 3 days ago

If you're unhappy why stay? Personally I'm happy with the Lemmyverse as it stands now — certainly happier than in the corporate lowest-common-denominator that is now Reddit.

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[-] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago

I wonder how long until .world defederates from .world.

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[-] schwim@lemm.ee 38 points 3 days ago

I don't think the meme makes sense. The ml users don't seem to care how much other content is out there. They still participate as much as they'd like.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago

I'm out of the loop, what's going on?

[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago

We have to fight ourselves instead of conservatives because someone's left isn't the right shade of blue.

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[-] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago

Lemmy.ml spreads a lot of propaganda/disinformation, has opaque and questionable moderation, and regularly advocates for violence.

[-] peppers_ghost@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

Cringe meta drama. Some people really want this place to be reddit.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

Another day of .world reddit migrants thinking de-federating or boycotting .ml will change literally anything.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

It will. It will change which instance they shriek "tankie!" at.

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[-] starbrite@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago

Posting this to lemmy.world, lol

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[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 139 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Here's a list of a few .ml communities and potential replacements:

Side note the main issue with .ml is transparency. It's fine if the admins of an instance implement whatever rules they want in their instance; however, once they start enforcing hidden rules disguised as violations of the listed rules, they're being liars and treating the users as stupid things to be herded, not as human beings.

EDIT: as people noticed I'm not including .world comms to not encourage even further concentration of activity into the largest instance. Decentralisation is important. Also I'm adding stuff that you guys suggest.

* for specialised memes, as the category is rather large:

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 76 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I had the audacity to say that the deaths of Tiannanmen's Square were inexcusable, no matter who started the violence, and my comment was removed under instance rule 1 (bigotry).. like wat 😂

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[-] coherent_domain@infosec.pub 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I like the idea of growing non-ml community, however, I wish larger instances do not block ML. Otherwise, they would just move to lemmy.ee or lemmy.one, just like how they moved from hexbear and grad to ml.

It is great tankies got their own place where they can be happy, but I really don't want to interact with them. I am emotional about issues they engage in, and emotional me is usually not the nicest version of myself.

Social media is one of the few ways I can relax for couple hours per week outside of my job, and I really don't want my social media experience to go full investigative journalism.

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[-] can@sh.itjust.works 100 points 4 days ago

As long as it's not only lemmy.world communities you start growing. Centralization won't lead to good outcomes anywhere.

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[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 75 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I criticized the CCP on lemmy.ml and got called racist and got banned lmao

Edit: thank you for the link, Lazycog@sopuli.xyz!

https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=2602275

I stand by every single comment that's been removed from this platform. Some of them were removed for good reason, one of them was a brain fart that I shouldn't have posted in the first place, but I'm happy to have y'all investigate my moderation history

ETA: If you read this, and then replied to a comment that's already been removed from a community I'm banned from, you're an idiot. I literally can't interact with you. Why not reply to this comment?

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[-] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

ml makes sense on the fediverse. That's kind of the whole point. Same with Linux.

[-] helloworld55@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago
  • posted on *.world
[-] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 20 points 3 days ago

https://sh.itjust.works/c/meanwhileongrad

Here is a nice community that keeps track of their bullshit

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[-] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 4 days ago

your "boycott" was already happening naturally because (ayk) lemmy.ml's mods are insufferable

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[-] greencactus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

grabs some popcorn

[-] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 days ago

I feel like I'm missing something important here as a simple fediverse user. I don't really care about the politics, I just made an account during the first large Reddit exodus and choose an instance I thought would persist. I also made a second account on kbin.social, but it looks pretty dead as a project.

I never noticed anything described in this thread, but I'm subbed to many communities across the fediverse...

[-] matmarspace@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago

Yep... Same here mate 😇

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[-] 96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl 26 points 3 days ago

Can someone inform me about what's wrong with lemmy.ml?

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 32 points 3 days ago

The ml stands for Marxist-Leninist, and the admins are tankies

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