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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 19 points 20 hours ago

Like only the West has gone Fascist...

[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 10 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

The map is misleading. The other "non-West" countries are leading the pack. We humans, from space, must look like starlings.

[-] tibi@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In the Romanian presidential elections we just had, we have a fascist extreme right-wing candidate who got 1st place (note that we have a 2 round election system and this was only the first round). He appeared out of nowhere with a TikTok campaign, he didn't have a traditional ad campaign, he didn't participate in any debates, a lot of people who don't use TikTok haven't even heard about him. We will know in 2 weeks if we become fascist or not.

There are 2 problems. First is the hybrid war going on. The western world needs to do better. Ban TikTok and take drastic measures to limit the spread of misinformation and propaganda on social media.

The second big problem is that western leaders are ignoring the real problems affecting average people. The out of control immigration (the problem isn't with the people immigrating, but with a system unable to integrate them into the rest of the society), rising costs, unaffordable housing, huge tax burden are real problems that aren't being addressed. People are rightfully angry with the current leaders and are looking for alternatives. But most people aren't very smart or care enough about politics, so they are easy prey to propaganda and extremist groups that are calling out these problems.

[-] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 2 points 17 hours ago

In my opinion, what stresses people is not rising costs etc..it is the eroding of quality of life that they are used to.

  • Rising costs are only a problem if wages are stagnant or as is often the case, falling in real terms.
  • Unaffordable housing is a major systemic issue, mainly being caused by inadequate supply. We have major issues in NZ with crazy house prices. The problem of high housing costs can't be solved quickly.
  • Huge tax burden is again not a problem if the social contract is being upheld. But as is often the case, the social contract is being eroded. We are paying the same tax as we were last year, but suddenly the services we receive for that money are reduced or removed.

For example in New Zealand, the previous government removed the co-payment on prescriptions from the pharmacy. The current government has brought it back, services have gotten worse over the time also...

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 22 hours ago

A hopeful/sustainable country can tolerate immigration. Higher birth rates requires affordability of having children, and immigration fills the lower ranks of the power/labour hierarchy while permitting more affordability to natives who might have better access to education.

Societies that corruptly subjugate themselves to a hedgemon that inflicts war and climate destruction against people it teaches you to hate, but who also emigrate to your society, creates conflict that will deflect from the hate your hegemon wants your natives to internalize.

When a society does not feel being on the verge of collapse, investing in education and immigration is worth it. Future benefits of growth and prosperity will result. Right, center, left governments everywhere are corruptly managing collapse. The only countries doing well economically are those who are not subjecting themselves to US hegemony, and pursuing independence. Most of these countries get labeled as fascist by the deeply subjugated and their hedgemon.

The propaganda of hate is global, even if targeted domestically. The propaganda of hedgemonic subjugation is also global, but the collapsing corruption that is supported, helps hate win.

When your society has chosen total subjugated marriage/alliance to the US, Trump comes along to tell you what a worthless undevoted parasite you are, and the likely response from your leaders will be to destroy your country further, and enable fascism to gain traction, even if the fascist wing can distract from the collapsing subjugation to continue the subjugation.

[-] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago

Mexican here. Last month, a reporter known for being critical of the government was fired live in the middle of his segment. We're definitely going fascist.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 day ago

Yeah, this is a strangely euro-centric viewing. It needs to include so many more places. Russia is a big one that's missing, for another example, and there are a ton more. We're in bad economic times, which is where Fascists thrive. On the good side, leftists can also take advantage of it to actually help people if they succeed.

[-] DrDickHandler@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

We're only in bad economic time because the wealthy elites and corporation gobbled up everything away from the public, which makes it even more sad.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 21 hours ago

Yes, but it's bad for everyone but them. The reason doesn't really matter. It's the same as always. It's mostly the same conditions that led to the last rise in fascism.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 points 21 hours ago

No, the reason absolutely does matter. If we were all suffering because of a global drought, that would be entirely different than all of us starving and going homeless at the peak of human production.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 20 hours ago

Sure, but the reason is always the same. It's rich people taking everything. There's way more than enough food and water for everyone, and that'll be true for a very long time.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 20 hours ago

If the reason was always the same, I would be in agreement. The reasons matter.

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

The reason matters in that it affects how we solve the problems, but in terms of how fascism gets it's foot in... it doesn't really.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 21 hours ago

Do you know of any English coverage? That's very interesting

[-] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Here. I'm afraid there isn't much that's interesting about it other than the fact that it happened in the first place — I only singled it out because it's quite recent. If you want something interesting, though, how about the time our president straight up doxed a New York Times reporter on live TV?

[-] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Among the ones not going fascist north Korea, Russia, Eritrea, China, Syria, Iran…

Among the ones going fascist New Zealand, Canada, Switzerland, Ireland, Denmark…..

[-] starchylemming@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

technically , you are not going anywhere once you arrived at the destination

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

That depends on how big your destination is. You haven't experienced all of Disney just because you drive in the front gate.

There's tons more fascism to experience.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 4 points 21 hours ago

Among the ones not going fascist north Korea, Russia, Eritrea, China, Syria, Iran…

They're not going, because they're already there.

[-] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 4 points 23 hours ago

Just more anti-western propaganda, welcome to Lemmy.

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You're correct, it's innaccurate to not portray the entire world as descending into fascism, as has always been predicted on any path that embraces capitalism.

[-] swag_money@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

next year Canada is going to elect a dumb fuck crypto bro. we're definitely following the far-right populist 'wave' and we're not far from fascism :p

[-] Zementid@feddit.nl 19 points 1 day ago

India and China are missing. Japan is pretty fascist too... at least when compared to European "fascist" countries marked in the map.

Apart from that... the amount of fascism is too damn high!

[-] BluesF@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Is Japan "going" or just sitting roughly where it's been for decades? I don't know enough about Japanese politics but it doesn't seem from my perspective like it moves fast.

[-] Zementid@feddit.nl 2 points 23 hours ago

In my experience polite, but roughly as racist as the "old white racist/sexist man" - trope.

I think it's still a lot like in the 80s. The golden era of Japan. Maybe this is related.

[-] BluesF@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

As they say, Japan has been living in the year 2000 since 1980

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago
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[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Australia is facist now?

Fuck guess I missed it, was outside all day too.

[-] finderscult@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

You guys are seriously arguing for a ministry of truth.

[-] TassieTosser@aussie.zone 7 points 1 day ago

Eh, we find that out next year if the cookers are stupid enough to vote Dutto in.

[-] DrDickHandler@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

Oh, they are.

[-] goodthanks@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

It's not just the cookers. It's also the media illiterate and unengaged. I'm constantly shocked at how insular our population is. It feels like a ticking time bomb.

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[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago

Canada's not fascist yet. We're electing our own Vance in a few months, so save your sympathy for us then.

Apparently the Corporation has been able to convince people - as they've tried from the start - that Hair Guy is somehow worse than them. They haven't actually put forth a platform with any numbers or promises on it, but "hair guy bad" has finally found an audience so dumb to swallow it.

[-] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 day ago

Thanks to putin and his psyops war

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[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

We just wanna be like everyone else, is that so wrong?

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