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[-] blandfordforever@lemm.ee 118 points 2 weeks ago

JD Vance says that school shootings are just a "fact of life."

I wonder if all this rage and hopelessness is starting to find a more productive outlet.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago

If the choice is between school shootings or CEO shootings, the latter is preferrable. I'd take that trade even if I were a CEO, but I doubt most CEO's would.

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[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

JD Vance says that school shootings are just a “fact of life.”

Then it's logical that preventing politician shootings should be budgeted similarly. Time to defund the entire secret service as part of those 75% government employee cuts. School shootings being resourced differently than oligarch shootings is a violation of the equal protections clause of the constitution, and therefore an illegal waste of our tax money.

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[-] ccunning@lemmy.world 77 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The children should consider working harder to increase shareholder value…

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 21 points 2 weeks ago

Layoffs increase shareholder value and this one gave their stock a boost.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Those hard working school shooters are doing their best to promote growth in the funeral home industry. Won't anybody think of the jobs!?!

[-] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 2 weeks ago
[-] hOrni@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago

"CEO shootings are a fact of life"

There's another one for you.

"Only Rich Kids Can be School Shooters Act of 2025"

That's gonna be the title of the new gun control law.

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 weeks ago

Tbf that's one of the ones they typically try to pass. One of the more popular ideas (outside of feature bans) is "tax the shit out of them." In effect that means "stop the dirty poors from having them, but a rich guy who can pay the tax is fine."

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This was literally the basis of the National Firearms Act, which is a federal gun law we very much already have and have done for a long time. It was originally enacted in the 1930's with the express purpose of preventing the ~~blacks~~ poors from achieving arms parity with which to defend themselves from ~~whites~~ the rich, and had a specific focus on "concealable" arms which could conceivably be used to take out high profile political targets. Which is something that was at the forefront of every seedy politician's mind in the era coming right out of Prohibition and leading into the Great Depression, I'm sure. Boy, that sounds eerily familiar.

The NFA bans a wide swath of arms and arms adjacent things including short barreled rifles and shotguns, fully automatic guns, and silencers/suppressors.

Oh, wait. Did I say "banned?" It actually just slaps a mandatory $200 federal tax on them with a ton of paperwork, with failure to comply under penalty of the ATF kicking in your door and shooting your dog. Note that in the 1930's $200 was an exorbitant amount of money that would be absolutely unattainable for the working classes simply to afford a shooty toy, but was easily within reach of the robber barons of the time. Oh, and the police and military also got a full exception. Of course. For reference, $200 in 1934 dollars (when this was passed) is equivalent to $4,711.40 today. And for further perspective, a nice shotgun in 1935 would cost you around $40 in the currency of that time.

"Sure, boy, you can own that gun. All you have to do is file all this extra paperwork and pay us five times more than what it's worth in taxes."

Related fun fact: The original incarnation of the NFA was originally intended to apply to all handguns. Think about that one for a minute.

(Edit: This was meant as an addition, not a correction.)

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yes, and basically what I'm saying is

A) That's bad, ~~the~~ us poors (not trying to speak for you, but that includes me lol I'm poor af) deserve the right to SBRs, SBSs, suppressors, AOWs and IMO, FA, just as much as any rich bastard who can pay the fees.

And

B) As we can see from this very incident, taxing it does fuck all, murders can still happen even with those taxes, and by a poor without stamps at that. Even if we amended that tax to be the price of a Corolla today, I guarantee he didn't even pay the $200 tax (if he did he'd have had a booster on the can lol), if you're going to murder a dude on camera at 6am on a busy street in a city where suppressors are illegal you're not gonna fill out a form 4.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I'm pretty poor, too.

I ain't got no suppressors, either. What a drag.

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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

"pay the tax" lol ... nah they'll just get tax breaks and find loopholes on top. paying taxes is for plebs.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Most school shooters, and probably hoodie guy, own their guns legally. Most other types of crime, like robbery, the guns used are stolen or illegal anyway.

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[-] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 49 points 2 weeks ago

Oh absolutely. Start letting the gun violence get too close to home and the rich will force that legislation through overnight

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

A reminder that California's famously strict gun laws started as a Republican reaction to black people owning guns and forming citizen militias to protect their neighborhoods from criminals and oppressive government thugs.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Indeed, Ronnie Racist Fucking Reagan and a senator who panicked when the armed Black Panthers(?) walked into the State Capitol building during a protest. Before that, California was open carry, locked and loaded.

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Literally where California's strictness on handguns originated.

[-] Aneb@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly this. But you wont see one gun from rich people, while the rest of us have to mandatory turn in our guns. There are no laws for people that can throw money at the courthouse to let them do what they want. In america its only "legal" to do illegal shit if your rich

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I keep seeing evidence that the rich don't give 1% of a shit about the rest of us, but I keep sending myself "thoughts and prayers" that that's not totally true and we don't have an open class war going on in the US.

[-] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago

Many school shooters talk about wanting to be seen, wanting fame/notoriety, and so on. With the huge positive response to this, it wouldn't be too surprising to see copycats. "If I do this, people will remember me and love me for it."

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[-] ccunning@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago

78 school shootings in 2024

77 more in the next 25 days could be a challenge

[-] WalrusDragonOnABike@lemmy.today 15 points 2 weeks ago

Would probably be followed by a wave of CEO resignations though, if such was accomplished.

[-] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Where’s the problem in that?

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

"When Americans put their minds to it, they can accomplish anything"

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[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 weeks ago
[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 18 points 2 weeks ago

Or, gun ownership will just become more expensive.

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

It won’t happen. The government will spare no expense to protect CEOs. Same cannot be said for our children.

[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago
[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Spare no expense <> gun control

Gun control is actually not expensive at all. Instead they would probably grant secret service access to billionaires, or something like that.

[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

Ah sorry, I get you now

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Capital can always afford more guns / storm troopers. That's been the nature of the state since forever.

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

But those hired guns have limits. They have to protect their oligarchs at all times, a potential shooter only needs one time.

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

"Today we were unlucky, but remember we have only to be lucky once, you will have to be lucky always"

[-] capital@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Even I have my limits.

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[-] hOrni@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, but it will be done so that only the rich have guns.

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[-] joel_feila@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

12 more and you get a free sub

[-] And009@reddthat.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

I love rushing with SMGs

[-] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

The immediate citation got me.

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 weeks ago
[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

Motherfucker. This happened today.

[-] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

The NRA would scream about it and MAGA would turn it into demonizing the rich; “y’all can afford bodyguards!”

[-] mynameisigglepiggle@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

They can take our guns, but they can never take our rusty dull guillotines

[-] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 7 points 2 weeks ago

Nah let's not let them take the guns from the working class.

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[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

"Now is not the time to focus on solutions to CEO shootings, we're thinking and praying, and then we just need to move on... As then it won't be time to look in the past."

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