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submitted 23 hours ago by zerozaku@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

Every group chat seems to die the moment I send 1-2 texts there. Every single one. Old, new, offline friends, online friends, everywhere. What's going on? Are my jokes bad? Have you ever experienced this? If yes, what was the issue you found out?

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[-] kalkulat@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Gotta get there earlier ... before all those other thoughts get a chance to drown out your perfectly sensible thoughts.

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 98 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

This would have been hilarious if nobody had replied...

It's all in your head dude. Don't worry about it.

[-] dukeofdummies@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

I was half expecting a ton of upvotes and no comments.

[-] zerozaku@lemmy.world 20 points 23 hours ago

I actually wanted make a joke on that in the post itself lol.

[-] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 16 points 19 hours ago

If this was reddit this thread would have no replies.

[-] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 43 points 23 hours ago

Should we tell him, guys?...

[-] zerozaku@lemmy.world 21 points 23 hours ago
[-] DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 8 points 23 hours ago

Yes this right here officer.

[-] cabbage@piefed.social 17 points 22 hours ago

Holy shit, the sociology of group chats is complex as fuck judging from these comments. I hate them too much to ever have stopped and wondered why I hate them.

My suggestion would echo Bukowski: Don't try. It's perfectly fine to only respond in the group chat when something needs to be coordinated. Everything else one on one communication is better for. And if you do feel like interacting, don't force it. Silence is never wrong. On the contrary.

I don't even do group chats for party invitations. I just text everyone individually. It's a little more work but it's so much nicer, as far as I'm concerned.

Then again, I was born in the 90s. I'm a grumpy old man and without a doubt out of thouch.

[-] kalkulat@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

+1 just for mentioning Bukowsky ... he is WAY underrepresented on the Internet (which explains why it's in this state)

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago

I was born in the 90s. I'm a grumpy old man

I feel my bones turning to dust reading this.

[-] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Since when is 35-24 old lmao

[-] cabbage@piefed.social 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

When it comes to digital communication, I think I might be a dinosaur. I have never used Discord or TikTok. My group chat experience as a teenager was on IRC.

Culturally I am also out of touch - I come from a time when young people were reliably progressive, and where there did not seem to be a huge political gender divide. I feel weirdly removed from those born ten years after me, who are now around 20.

Sure, I'm in a few group chats on WhatsApp and Facebook Messenger, and I know these situations in the abstract. But if OP is a teenager they probably come from a completely different world than I do.

I'm just not with it any more, you know. I wear an onion in my belt.

That said, I of course agree completely that I am the embodiment of youth in most aspects of life!

[-] kalkulat@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I'm so with you on this. Only much moreso. WITF would I EVER want to use stupid little computer where you have to type with your THUMBS? And costs TWICE as much as a great desktop?

"Portability" they say. Hell I went out-of-house to AVOID phonecalls, to live in the material world, not to walk down the street looking in the direction of my toes, missing everything going on around me, talking to invisible people. Pathetic.

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

Upvotes for the sincerity.

[-] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 21 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I'm going to be honest and try not to be rude. This is only my observation from my perspective and may be wildly wrong. I looked through your comment history. You seem to be polite and communicative. That's not a bad thing. However, your comments don't seem very funny or interesting to me. I communicate through humor. I understand that it is subjective, but I'm not often in chats or conversations that awkwardly die out.

Show some more of your personality in what you say. Compliment others. Leave them with questions. Do you think maybe the answer to your question isn't what you are saying, it's how you are saying it?

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago

Tough but honest advice. I can relate to needing this advice but I've come to accept who I am. People just like sincerity, too. Organic, not shoehorned comments. No compliment fishing, etc... The group you're chatting with also just may not be your kind of people; you just may not have realized it yet.

Alternatively chat groups do spontaneously die and you may only be consciously aware when it's you who commented last; but you may not be so aware of the chat groups that died with someone else's comments.

[-] DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world 20 points 23 hours ago

Maybe your interjecting into a convo and not saying something worth responding to? I would imagine that making a joke in text isn't that funny because its not spoken its read.

[-] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 11 points 23 hours ago

I think this - and the dozens of other reasons - is it.

I'm in a handful of reasonably active group chats, and if one of my absolute banger messages doesn't get a response, welll... maybe it just wasn't that good. Not awful in as much that people leave the group en maase, but just not nearly as funny or interesting to other folk as it was to me.

It may be that it was the group chat equivalent of clicking a Lemmy post, thinking "huh, cool", and moving on.

It may be that the post was so balanced and well presented from most angles, that there isn't really anything to add.

It could be that my post went against the grain of the flow of conversation or the tastes of the majority of the group, and people chose to ignore it rather than tell me to fuck off.

It could be that people's lives have run away with them, nobody gave any serious mind to the post when they read it, and it would just be a bit weird replying twelve or 24 hours after the post.

Any which way - if the group is still active, and you've not been called out publically or privately, then people likely don't give a toss and have moved on - no harm no foul.

[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 3 points 17 hours ago

I've noticed something similar to this, where I walk into a room and it goes silent enough that it's like the stereotype of a cowboy walking into a saloon. There's only one place where I can trust this to never happen.

[-] HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago

I don't do group chats anymore because whatever I say gets unanswered, or replied to and buried in the conversation.

With friends we do video chat. Also seems in large group chats, there are often like 10 different parallel conversations going on and it is hard to keep track of. No one waits or treats it like an actual group discussion.

[-] akkajdh999@programming.dev 4 points 20 hours ago

Do you experience people becoming silent and staring at you with disgust when you make a joke in real life?

[-] zerozaku@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Nope I am not that open irl

[-] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

You might be over thinking your jokes. Try not editing your reaction thoughts. The first thing you think is often wrong or absurd but it can also be very funny because its wrong or absurd.

For example, Louis CK has a joke about seeing a person walking with their dog, and also talking on the phone. The person is holding the leash and the phone in the same hand, so the thought that popped into Louie's head was, "I wonder what the benefits are of hooking your phone up to your dogs leash?".

Jokes need to be some version of something you really shouldnt say, for them to be funny. Reasons you shouldnt say something could be: its shocking, its silly or wrong on purpose, its taboo societally, its offensive, it punches down, its too personal, etc etc.

[-] Draegur@lemm.ee 7 points 23 hours ago

i used to struggle with this too, op.

the only reason i don't struggle with it anymore is because i ran out of sufficient energy to struggle.

however, that was not what resolved it--not directly.

no longer agonizing over my conversations had other effects.

i decided that if all i can be is background noise, then i shall be background noise. and that ... loosened my hesitation. i physically lost the ability to attach any kind of ulterior motive or emotional baggage to what i wanted to say, and so, my messaging became more open and honest as a result, in a way i never had the choice to implement at will. it took breaking down to no longer proverbially have a wall there.

and then, at another point after this had metaphorically cleaned my slate, i decided to start over by embodying what i felt was missing. i would be the warmth that no one was showing. i would greet, and encourage, and ask nonbinary question--but i don't think this would have worked if i had not first shattered my own guard and begun engaging my social interactions with totally exposed vulnerability.

[-] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 1 points 15 hours ago

Do you fart in lifts with the same effect ? If not, it's probably in your head :)

I lurk mostly, like 100-200 to 1 there aren't enough people to get long engaging threads if thays what yoite after, , thank for that

[-] Droechai@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago

Lifts are the best way to fart, the acoustic canvas are enhanced by the echo heavy acoustic profile given by the enclosed space and it offers an easy "out" for a aroma connoisseur to linger in the space without judgment while at the same time allowing people to leave quickly if they choose to not partake in the sampling by stepping out

[-] Mickey7@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

They can smell it on you like a dog.

[-] Toes@ani.social 4 points 23 hours ago

In my experience every chat group has a person that's the glue. What I mean is sometimes unintentionally that group chat only reacts when the glue person(s) are engaging. So if you work out who that is in your group and have them engage with you, it'll become lively.

[-] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 1 points 17 hours ago

I'm not a joking person and I feel similar situations. Maybe I'm the extreme opposite, my (almost) complete lack of lightheartedness leads me to face echo chambers, both IRL and in the cyberspace. I do some memes and I say/post some funny things but my essence is imbued with non-conformist thoughts.

[-] nycki@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

I used to have this problem and I'm not sure exactly how to fix it but I can say that it helps a lot if you consider what potential responses you might get before you speak. Don't just say things because you want to say them, say things because they open up the conversation for interesting responses. This is not the same as "asking a lot of questions" because that's exhausting, as anyone who's dealt with a Sealion knows. Instead, try to say things that are open-ended. If your chat's tone is comedic, try not fixing your typos so that someone else can chain a joke off of them. If the chat's tone is serious, try making an analogy that connects the current topic to a previous one. If the chat's tone is toxic, you can leave.

[-] palordrolap@fedia.io 2 points 21 hours ago

Been there done that.

A few years back I went back to an old Internet haunt that I hadn't been to in more years still.

People were there, chatting, including at least one person I knew who'd been there previously. I should have taken the hint when he joked that he "didn't spend a lot of time there, honest" (paraphrase), but I basically picked up where I'd left off years before rather than feel out the new vibe. There were about twenty or so people there at first, and I only really noticed when there were ten or so left and they weren't saying much.

I left. Haven't had the nerve to go back. If I do, I'll try to feel out the vibe first.

In the meantime, I've found other places to hang out and different people. But I still try to reel myself in occasionally, just in case.

[-] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 2 points 23 hours ago
[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

There is an enormous range of age and intelligence in a place like this. It only takes a couple of dumb kids to create negativity. The entire demographic at some point in time may not align with you.

Like I'm abstracted in functional thought. Many people cannot follow abstractions or contextualize them well. People that lack self awareness about the spectrum of human functional thought and assume they are some kind of universal standard and authority are the primary negative that causes you to question yourself in ways like this post. There is no standard. There are several types of functional thought, and of those, a few will struggle to effectively understand yours. That is okay. The world is not a binary. Right and wrong are idealized oversimplifications. There are exceptions to every rule. You likely encounter people that do not understand you as well as you would like, but that is going to happen with a group that contains a large spectrum of people.

Like some people care about personality. I care about curiosity, and want to engage with interesting stuff with depth on the edge of what I understand. I also want to question everything and look at subjects from different angles. Lots of people make stupid assumptions about unconventional angles of questioning a subject.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 2 points 23 hours ago

Personally, I gave up a long time ago

I just post, comment, contribute and don't even care any more. If people respond, great, lets chat a bit ... if they don't, I really don't care.

When I first started any kind of online chat years and years ago in the early internet ... I wanted to talk to people and I wanted them to talk to me, I constantly wanted to interact and felt terrible if I got no reaction. Over the years I realized, if you really, really want interaction, then you have to build relationships with people and more often than not, eventually you'll get regular conversations with those people .... even if they are just anonymous characters in a chat forum, platform or social media. People are people and they habituate to certain places or routines and given time, you become familiar with one another .... even if you never really meet in real or life or know one another.

So this is all I do now .... I post, comment and contribute and never think twice of anything.

Everyone is a bot except you.

๐Ÿค–

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I know my jokes are fire because I get validation here.

It's the chat rooms that suck. ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

Look at it like this: You know how actors are told to break a leg and comedians are told to knock 'em dead? You just floored them with your text and they're dead from laughing.

[-] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 1 points 23 hours ago

Everyone wants group chats to die

[-] electric@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago

Why are you in so many group chats though? Just cliquish behaviors.

[-] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I suppose a group chat by it's very definition is a clique, else it would be a public chat.

The key - as in face to face interactions - is to only bother yourself with groups you have a personal interest in, or a professional benefit from being in.

It's a fine balance. Too many groups and it comes across as insincere, too few and you end up out of the loop on a lot of friendly news or professional opportunities.

[-] electric@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Pretty much. Not sure why OP is surprised.

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 0 points 23 hours ago
[-] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 1 points 21 hours ago

๐ŸŽต hi, you're the problem it's you ๐ŸŽถ

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