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Codium is a genus of edible green macroalgae.
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If Vim is so good, then why can't you browse Lemmy from it?
This meme was made by the Emacs gang.
Because unlike emacs gang, we donβt need to build an OS to browse Lemmy.
How bout you go back and let your friends know that if theyβre in need of a good editor, try Vim ;)
Vim needs are met by using Evil-Mode. You don't have to leave Emacs for this.
As a poke at Emacs'Β creeping featurism, vi advocates have been known to describe Emacs as "a great operating system, lacking only a decent editor".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editor_war
:P
*stealthily closes nano window and closes laptop lid...
How bout you go back and let your friends know that if theyβre in need of a good editor, try Vim ;)
If my friends wanted a good editor, then I wouldn't recommend a Vimitor, I'd recommend ed, the standard text EDitor :p
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helix gang anyone?
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Helix is much faster than neovim, but annoyingly it feels so limited. Can't change anything about it.
But it's supposed to get plugins at some point.
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π present!
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Meanwhile, James rocks up with Notepad++
The Fiat Panda of text editors
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I use vim btw
I use neovim btw
I use vim, aliased to vi, on Arch btw.
tbh, one of the essential things vim gets right for me is that it's designed as a text editor, not (only) a code editor. I use it for so much non-code text as well, but it feels weird opening a coding tool for such things.
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Have been a professional software engineer for 8 years now. Have yet to find a reason to use vim for anything (other than availability of course, but if nano isn't installed for some godforsaken reason I have other problems lol).
I've been in various forms of coding and administration for around fifteen years now. Despite trying lots of editors, I have yet to find a reason to use anything but vim.
I do like obsidian for note taking.
edit: Removed typo.
Professional software engineer here, using vim as my primary editor.
Vim is a way more competent editor than nano. If you spend a lot of time editing files via ssh, vim is amazing. And when you get bitten by it, youβre infected. ;-)
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I plan on moving to a nice Neovim setup eventually, but VSCodium is so convenient out of the box for a baby developer like me.
You'll be glad to know that the difficulty comes from the syntax and very little from any programming skill level. You learn new ways of writing certain code structures like indented curly braces for example. Programming python might be easier than cpp in vim, not due to the language, but just cpp having more complex syntax to type.
Tldr, almost exactly the same amount of effort whether you've been coding for two weeks or two years.
I feel like Iβm the only person using KDevelop
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"But guys, gtfomp" - emacs
I would argue that vim is fantastic for a lot of editing and coding tasks, just not all of them.
Where it utterly fails is with deep trees of files in codebases, like you see in Java or some Javascript/Typescript apps. Even with a robust suite of add-ons, you wind up backing into full-bore IDE territory to manage that much filesystem complexity. Only difference is that navigating and managing a large file tree w/o a mouse is kind of torture.
Fuzzy finding really shine for this use case, no need for a mouse.
Once I got used to single-directory filetree browsing plus fuzzy finding, I have never been able to comfortably use a traditional filetree anymore. most of them are not designed for efficient keyboard use (vscode and intellij at least) and don't really help understanding the structure of the project imo (unless there arent that many files). For massive projects I find it easier to spend the initial effort of learning a few directory names and the vague structure using oil.nvim, and then eventually I can just find what I need almost instantly by fuzzy finding.
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It always surprises me how complicated some of the editor tooling sounds in threads like this. Obviously once you learn how to use these things they are powerful, but how do people have the patience to deal with all of that in the beginning? This is coming from a guy who writes scripts constantly to avoid doing tedious, error-prone things.
Also I keep seeing people say vscode is slow. One of the reasons I switched to it is that it's insanely fast compared to other editors I used (even those with far-inferior featuresets) π€·ββοΈ
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The amount of time my classmates have spent dealing with vscode crashing, freezing, breaking, etc is way beyond negligible. And yet, I'm the weird guy apparently for preferring vim and GCC.
Ewww not even vscodium
That can't be right, the red car has a service manual and too many functioning assemblies for it to be VS.
My professor was always trying to get us to use vim or eMacs over an IDE to write our C programs. Iβm sorry, I like using a mouse. I know, I know, blasphemy. Iβm taking a shortcut. Iβm a noob.
When I absolutely have to, I go for vim, mostly because I know a few of the key bindings for it, but otherwise avoid it.
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Code and intellij have plugins available to use vim keybindings on them. I like this approach to get the best of both worlds
the vim plugins are so bad... they only support the super basic stuff, as soon as you want flags with your search or chaining of commands they are useless
The neovim plugin for VSCode uses the actual nvim binary as a backend and supports all features.
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It's not the same. Granted it's been years since I used the vim plugin but last time I tried it couldn't even do standard find and replace.
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