Donald please, do EU too
this post was submitted on 01 Feb 2025
188 points (99.5% liked)
news
23768 readers
751 users here now
Welcome to c/news! Please read the Hexbear Code of Conduct and remember... we're all comrades here.
Rules:
-- PLEASE KEEP POST TITLES INFORMATIVE --
-- Overly editorialized titles, particularly if they link to opinion pieces, may get your post removed. --
-- All posts must include a link to their source. Screenshots are fine IF you include the link in the post body. --
-- If you are citing a twitter post as news please include not just the twitter.com in your links but also nitter.net (or another Nitter instance). There is also a Firefox extension that can redirect Twitter links to a Nitter instance: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/libredirect/ or archive them as you would any other reactionary source using e.g. https://archive.today/ . Twitter screenshots still need to be sourced or they will be removed --
-- Mass tagging comm moderators across multiple posts like a broken markov chain bot will result in a comm ban--
-- Repeated consecutive posting of reactionary sources, fake news, misleading / outdated news, false alarms over ghoul deaths, and/or shitposts will result in a comm ban.--
-- Neglecting to use content warnings or NSFW when dealing with disturbing content will be removed until in compliance. Users who are consecutively reported due to failing to use content warnings or NSFW tags when commenting on or posting disturbing content will result in the user being banned. --
-- Using April 1st as an excuse to post fake headlines, like the resurrection of Kissinger while he is still fortunately dead, will result in the poster being thrown in the gamer gulag and be sentenced to play and beat trashy mobile games like 'Raid: Shadow Legends' in order to be rehabilitated back into general society. --
founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
Watching the United States President choke the economy to death in less than 100 days.
honestly the perfect way for america to go out. bumbling narcissist and former reality TV star is elected head oligarch by 80 million people who either see assholeness and cheap showmanship as endearing qualities and/or were just plain miseducated. said oligarch thinks he can bully the rest of the world into handing him free money for his pipe dream of reviving 1950s US dominance. ends up completely alienating ~~allies~~ satellite states as the dollar collapses and BRICS booms.
Guess we're doing accelerationism now
Accelerationism is not a vibe, it's a process, and there isn't a single group of organized Marxists in America that is voting for, participating in, or creating conditions for acceleration. It's being developed by reactionary forces and the Marxists are just vibing with it
We're not doing anything.
The US has simply decided to destroy itself because the idiot failsons/daughters of smarter imperialists took the reins as true believers of the past's bullshit and took power.
Now it just burns because it burns
Or as the eternal science of Marxist though teaches, monopoly capitalism has such extreme contradictions during late stage, it destroys itself
Guess we're doing barbarism
I am just a bystander, laughing yes, but watching nonetheless.
I’m along for the ride. And trying to keep in mind the upside: if the country collapses, they will not have the ability to interfere in other countries.
lib status: owned
fridge status: empty
wife status: cheating on me
oh yeah, we do get tired of winning 
Oh thank god everything has been way too cheap recently, thanks Mr president
According to the news, Americans are only going to be paying $1,000 more per person for their basic goods this year. It's a good thing most people aren't working paycheck to paycheck, have been receiving cost-of-living wages, and are not already in debt, right?
It's looking like I'm barely going to squeeze out paying off my final credit card balances soon. Idk what I'm gonna do once I have to start paying for health insurance and my federal student loans later this year
: “Sorry kiddo, but we ALL need to make sacrifices!”
load more comments
(1 replies)
The end of the fourth Reich draws near 
If this lasts a while, it will be interesting how the Treatlerites respond. I've always imagined the US falling apart in like two weeks if it was under the same kind of embargo that the US subjects Cuba to. This won't be close to that, but I still expect some craziness.
Does anyone else find it weird that the fourth Reich started before the third?
reichs are counterintuitive like that
Also everyone always forget the zero reich that was Great Moravia that was founded around 150 years before first German one.
And before the second.
What was the second one supposed to be again? Nazi lore is so hard to keep up with. I tried to read mein kampf once and couldn't even get through all the self-aggrandizing in the first chapter. How those freaks think there's a coherent ideology there is beyond me.
The German Empire (1871-1918).
Oh Germany and its delusions of grandeur
load more comments
(1 replies)
Is there any logic to this at all? Why are they punishing canada and mexico worse than china?
(I know in reality all of these only punish americans but ykwim)
Trump has been floating the idea that he wants to replace income tax with tariffs. The intention is that he wants to offload the tax burden of corporations onto the cost of living. Canada, Mexico, China are not paying the tariffs. US working people are paying the tariffs.
c'mon, collapseI love that he and his movement have been so rabidly anti-China particularly on the economics and he applied 250% more pain on Canada than China.
load more comments
(1 replies)
In the face of waning dominance of the dollar as the world currency, lacking options to sustain the dollars value in the global market, empire as a tool no longer viable, and alternatives to their Financialization schemes, and global sanctions driving a split in payment systems, the Hermit Kingdom known as the Burgerreich turns its economic policies inward, abandoning conquest of empire, imperialism, and third world Financialization, in favor of economic nationalism.
We're going to see a lot of economic activity domestically in the USA as part of this. It won't be enough to win. But it might be enough to convince the workers that things are improving. More people will get into laborious factory employment, more people will get into laborious field employement, and more people will get into gig employment to maintain the livelihoods of the others. It might actually look half way decent in a few years.
But it's never going to put the West on a trajectory to surpass China. So there will also be an element of a war drive, and a lot of that labor is going to go to industrialized munitions production. And that's going to require nationalism/patriotism, and that means culture war and domestic oppression.
Yeah I agree to an extent. I think the demands globally are going to change very soon. Our ability to sustain any form of conflict is going to be deeply hampered, to the point that I think any amount of rearmament that we engage with is going to be defensive in the truest sense. While we do that though, development in states we traditionally have subjugated will have advanced enough to become true contenders against our influence.
South America and Africa will rise in our absence, likely to be the next set of contender states. The middle east will likely go through a realignment as well. All with China leading the way. Our sanction regime will loose all its venom as different market avenues open. We've already seen decolonization begin in Africa, and I think with this and economic support through B&R, were going to see rapid and compressed development of the productive forces in Africa that might bypass capitalist accumulation and land right into socialist production.
This new diminished position on the world stage will leave us susceptible to meaningful sanctions and global market actions that will intensify class antagonism at home. Production at home especially industrial production will need to be accompanied with a massive deflationary period to justify reshoring our industrial labor power. Which could be what the goal is with the tariffs coming out of the whitehouse.
That amount of class conflict, open and unmasked, could backfire. How it backfires, who knows. How long all this plays out? Decades I'm sure.
It would be amazing if the USA focused on defense on the expectation of invasion. Talk about a collosal waste of energy and focus.
I think the tarrifs have multiple goals. I think deflationary pressure is one. I think bargaining is another. But we agree that the goal is "restoring" or rather simple domestic capital investment.
The class antagonism problem is solved with xenophobia, scapegoats, and white supremacy - just like always.
I disagree that South America will rise alongside Africa. I think both will be susceptible to disruption by black ops. I think South America will be more susceptible than Africa. I hope I am wrong but I imagine part of the USA's lebensraum will be death squads, coups, and assassinations throughout South America to prevent any sort of hemispheric threat from emerging.
I think between deleting things like USAid and a growing domestic "terror" problem the US will need to reinvest in domestic cointelpro style projects. I think the working class right isn't fully aligned with the drivers behind this current federal crisis. The eggs are about to get more expensive, and that's a problem. The deflections are not going to work if they're all done at the same time like what is happening now.
Our current efforts in destabilizing our enemies are failing, and we needed to rely heavily on allies to achieve any of it, dragging them down with us. They are facing a similar problem as the US. Their fascist rise is born out of similar contradictions.
There is a reason why the Trump administration is pushing for NATO to be less reliant on US funds and it is because they want to exit NATO, likely because they know we can't keep production up in the near term to meet defense needs. The chip conflict with China is only worsens this reality. They could make the importing of that technology for these advanced tech systems the DoD wants to build incredibly painful.
I wouldn't be shocked to see a "Starwars" like project out of this administration, just like Reagan. This time built by SpaceX using what we know about the iron dome. A good way to dump cash into private industry. Its not yet clear to me that the AI sector is going to recover and I'll bet we see the Stargate project axed in favor of something that's less of a bubble a defense aligned.
All this to say, it's going to be hard to exert foreign influence if we're facing major crisis at home. Our allies are going to be dealing with similar unrest.
Also I'm mostly talking out my ass here. I could be fully wrong about all this. It is interesting to speculate about, but it's more an exercise in figuring out how fucked we are.
There is a reason why the Trump administration is pushing for NATO to be less reliant on US funds and it is because they want to exit NATO, likely because they know we can’t keep production up in the near term to meet defense needs.
I think this is a deeply inaccurate analysis. NATO is a transnational nuclear military that has functioning logistics networks, trained command structure and soldiers, and masses of material deployed all the way across Europe. Napoleon and Hitler spent so much blood and treasure to have a tiny fraction of the positioning that NATO has. The US will NEVER give up NATO.
The reason the Trump administration is pushing for NATO to be less reliant on US funds is because they want Europe to develop their own military AND transfer some of their treasury to the USA through weapons deals.
I wouldn’t be shocked to see a “Starwars” like project out of this administration, just like Reagan.
I would, because I don't see the current situation like a USA vs USSR situation. I see this situation a lot closer to Germany vs USSR right now.
Which is very funny because we subsist almost entirely on imports.
We're going to go from worrying about the price of food to just being worried about its availability.
load more comments
(1 replies)
load more comments
(3 replies)
i'm interested in seeing how people who voted for him are going to rationalize their support when the tariffs are pushed to consumers to cover. goods and services are going to increase in price and instead of it being due to a series of complicated events that the president is of course involved in it'll be directly Trump's fault. explain that away, please.
I have heard some chuds who admit it will raise prices in the short-term but say that in the long-term it will even out competition for local, good old American companies to come in and save the day and finally be competitive. Then we'll have more jobs. Same when we kick out the immigrants who are also stealing all our jobs.
But it excludes a bunch of considerations, like the fact that evil foreign companies didn't come in and steal our manufacturing jobs, it was given to them by porky. And they did it to pay people less. If it's in the US, pay will have to go up, which will increase costs to the consumer. Or, pay won't go up, so we'll have jobs but they won't be a livable wage.
But that probably won't happen anyway, because we just don't have the manufacturing capability here anymore. It will take decades to years to match all the things we import. Either way, the enemy is the capitalists here at home, not foreigners.
This is why we're seeing a bunch of the financial class pledging fealty to 45/47. There will be a split in the international elite as they try to wager what's going to happen. Some of them will bet on the US mechanisms and they will make suboptimal investments for patriotic reasons. Others will hedge. Figuring out where the hedges go is going to be part of our job.
Part of the reason for US lebensraum is allow for oppression of labor in Canada and Mexico and for destruction of those environments. This will allow a release valve for the professional managerial class in the USA, allowing them to manage the projects in Canada and Mexico without having to become laborers themselves. It also allows for the USA to create favorable conditions even for the breakaway elite to invest in Mexico and Canada instead of Asia.
The USA also has plenty of Keynseian options to make farm labor lucrative enough that crackers will do it. There's nothing stopping the government from doing that except maybe ideology, but I don't think they're rabid enough to let ideology cause a famine within a year of 45/47 getting reelected.
I think it's entirely possible to see an Italian fascism in the USA that starts to really solve economic issues for people couped with a German fascism that purges revolutionaries under the guise of purging refugees/immigrants. It's also possible that we get a German fascism that drives towards war with China, but that has to happen really soon according to intelligence and it likely won't get past Taiwan.
"because of woke"
its the cost of re-establishing American Greatness. We are exceptional, and if the prices are too high maybe thats a personal failing of yours and maybe youre whats making America Woke
load more comments
(8 replies)
We are currently in union negotiations. See if I can get pay increases to adjust for a policy induced 15% inflation.
Mom said it was my turn to raise inflation 
view more: next ›