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Summary

Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, Kamala Harris’ 2024 running mate, has suggested he may run for president in 2028.

Reflecting on the Democrats’ loss to Donald Trump and JD Vance, he admitted: “A large number of people did not believe we were fighting for them in the last election – and that’s the big disconnect.”

Walz said his life experience, rather than ambition, would guide his decision.

Though his VP campaign was marred by gaffes, he remains open to running if he feels prepared.

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[–] astutemural@midwest.social 253 points 5 days ago (12 children)

The Harris campaign had to cover the governor’s tracks when he tripped up during a California fundraiser by stating that the constitutionally-mandated system used to select the president, otherwise known as the electoral college, “needs to go”.

How the hell is that a gaffe? It's both the truth and exactly what people want to hear. Any lib who thinks like that needs to kindly keep their mouths shut for the next four years. This country needs radical change, the only choice you get is which one you want.

[–] Yoga@lemmy.ca 65 points 5 days ago

and exactly what people want to hear

It's what people who care about democracy want to hear. That certainly isn't everyone.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago

Here, let me grab a sharpie and fix that.

The Harris campaign made a cowardly attempt to walk back the governor's statements when he said during a California fundraiser that the broken election systems used for gerrymandering and enabling the double elections of Donald Trump, "needs to go".

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[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 291 points 5 days ago (25 children)

I'm not convinced there will be an election in 2028...

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 111 points 5 days ago (2 children)

There won't at the current trajectory. There won't even be midterms.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 85 points 5 days ago (17 children)

I remember Republicans checking out on elections back in 2018 because they bought hard into the Trump "elections are rigged" propaganda. The GOP lost seven Senate seats that year as conservative turnout plunged.

I wonder if Democrats will make the same mistake in 2026.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 63 points 5 days ago

No, I don't think Democrats are ready to make new mistakes yet. They still won't abandon their devotion to the old mistakes.

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[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 59 points 5 days ago

There will, but it won't be a fair one. They have "elections" in Russia, too.

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[–] knightmare1147@lemmy.world 59 points 4 days ago (11 children)
[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Bernie's going to be almost 90 years old by then

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[–] madjo@feddit.nl 51 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Bold of him to assume there will be elections in 2028.

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[–] JamieSTL@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He’s the one who wanted to go hardball on Republicans and they couldn’t find anything to stick to him, as hard as they tried.

Dems can do worse and have done much worse.

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 1 points 15 hours ago

Sad that this is what it took

[–] DukeHawthorne@lemmy.world 40 points 4 days ago (3 children)

It's cute that he thinks there will be an election in 2028, or ever again, for that matter.

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[–] Floon@lemmy.ml 25 points 4 days ago

Yeah, let's keep alive the existence of Walz's couple of misstatements, while ignoring the insane, senile nonsense that Trump spews on the hour. Fuck the media.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 86 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Tim Walz unleashed would have won this.

He was hamstrug by Harris. He’s likely the dem’s best choice for 2028.

So of course they’ll run Newsome or Shapiro or Hillary Clinton again because they’re a bunch of idiots.

[–] isaaclw@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago (6 children)

And Harris was hamstrung by Biden.

She could have been better.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (12 children)

She is a cop. She dropped out in 15th place in the 2020 primary before she was embarrassed in her home state of California. They should have never ran her and that's why they didn't do a primary.

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[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 141 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Him calling the GOP weird was not a gaffe but the campaign made him walk away from that language because it might offend potential turncoats. The fact he is internalizing the criticism worries me.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 57 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (9 children)

My only "problem" with the weird-comments were that they were overused. While it is certainly true, and Waltz had every reason to call it out, supporters often kept repeating it in the context of "look how triggered Republicans are by this". After a while it gave me the same vibe as people shoehorning "let's go brandon" into every situation.

[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 56 points 5 days ago (5 children)

My only problem with the “weird” verbiage is that it was far too soft.

The GOP is far beyond “weird” and well into full-blown Fascist territory.

But we wouldn’t want to “alienate” anybody by speaking facts!

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 55 points 5 days ago (1 children)

But the thing about the "weird" verbiage is that it pissed them off way more than the harder insults. Especially if you phrase the accusation correctly.

For example, here's a good response to a MAGA shitting on trans children, "it's really weird that you care so much about children's genitals."

It's because they don't have a defense for it. They can do mental gymnastics for the harder stuff pretty easily because those terms are in black and white. Weird is a very grey area term, and they have to explain why the behavior is normal.

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[–] FahrenheitGhost@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Personally, I'm hoping Zelensky will run for US president after strong Dien in Ukraine. You might be thinking that someone from another country can't be president. Well.... looks at current situation in White House At least this one would be elected.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 89 points 5 days ago (50 children)

Oh man I can't wait for right-wing/foreign propaganda to tell progressives what they should hate about Walz.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 47 points 5 days ago (5 children)

And don't forget this from a russian propagandist in 2015 (archived reddit link):

“Once we isolate key people, we look for people we know are in their upstream – people that they read posts from, but who themselves are less influential. We then either start flame wars with bots to derail the conversations that are influencing influential people, or else send off specific tasks for sockpuppets (changing this wording of an idea here; cause an ideological split there; etc).”

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[–] robocall@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (2 children)

He was the better half of the ticket.

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[–] drascus@sh.itjust.works 50 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Thinking there is going to be a real election in 2028 is the most optimistic thing I've heard in a while.

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[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago

It's cute that they think there's gonna be another election.

[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

its march 4th. i say we stop voting for seniors over the retirement age.

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[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 21 points 4 days ago

I'd vote for him but he'd need to ignore the consultants next time if he wants any hope of winning.

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

I'm worried that despite having very good views himself that he is going to be tainted by the past. Not without reason too, because the consultants made him stand down with the "weird" insult and progressive messaging. Like most of these people, if it's not their authentic campaign, then whose is it? He's demonstrated, like most people who reach a moment in their career to seriously consider this, that he's too malleable for populist politics. It's possible that he completely sheds that team and runs his own, but who here really thinks that's going to happen? I'd believe it if we had AOC for VP. The pressure to succumb to inferior messaging is higher than it'll ever be during a presidential campaign, I don't really trust anyone to stay firm except AOC, Talib, and Bernie because they have demonstrated resistance in this sort of high pressure consultant environment.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 55 points 5 days ago (28 children)

Fuckin should have been the nominee in the first place - him or Sanders.

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[–] OccultIconoclast@reddthat.com 36 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (24 children)

Walz was great in 2024. He had enthusiasm and actually answered the interviewers' questions. I would have preferred the symbolic victory of a black woman president, but I like Walz better as an individual person. I think he could have won if he'd been the presidential candidate. Well, Harris won too, but I mean he could have won even with the voter suppression stealing all those democratic votes.

President Walz and Vice President Cortez is the future we need. But probably not the future we'll get.

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[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 61 points 5 days ago (62 children)
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[–] FrostBlazer@lemm.ee 11 points 4 days ago (9 children)

I think it’s important to work towards enabling more political parties between now and 2028. We need alternative voting systems like Alaska and Maine have, but in the other states as well. That is only really possibly through getting ballot initiatives passed in each state for something like STAR Voting, Ranked Robin Voting, Score Voting, or Ranked Choice Voting.

A different voting system enables us to move away from First Past the Post, which is what forces a two party system. By having this, there can be more smaller parties that more truly represent the values of each state that can work with the bigger parties. Plus, it opens up the door for the most liked candidates to not knock each other out over the least liked candidates when tallying the votes.

All that is needed in about half of the states is to get signatures to put ballot initiatives up for a vote. Through grassroots action we can make a meaningful difference, and get more politicians like Walz that actually care about us in office.

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[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (5 children)

"Run for president in 2028" XD That ship has sailed. I don't think they will have any more elections.

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[–] straightjorkin@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Hopefully this time they don't muzzle him. Tim's a great example of dem policies working,

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 39 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I’d vote for him, given that we’re still allowed to vote.

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