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Finland has declined a U.S. request to export eggs amid a severe American shortage caused by bird flu.

The Finnish Poultry Association cited the lack of prior trade agreements and complex regulatory hurdles. Even if exports were possible, Finland’s limited egg production would not significantly impact the U.S. crisis.

Other European nations, including Sweden and Denmark, also face difficulties meeting U.S. demand, while Europe grapples with its own egg shortages.

The U.S. has turned to countries like Turkey and the Netherlands for supplies as bird flu remains a global issue.

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[–] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 44 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

This is what happens when you burn all your bridges. I'm American myself and to be brutally honest, I hope most of the free world will continue to refuse requests to export to us.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

yeah, it sucks, I wish we had this cheap protein, but, like... americans need to suffer. they need to suffer, and they need to know it's their leader's fault.

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

The suffering is almost a guarantee, but I'm not holding my breath on anyone that doesn't already do so holding Trump accountable for shit.

[–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Explain to me like I'm 5... Can we not just stop butchering chickens for few days and get them to lay eggs to "catch" up? Or are those chickens too far removed from normal chickens that they no longer lay eggs?

[–] houseofleft@slrpnk.net 3 points 49 minutes ago* (last edited 49 minutes ago)

Key thing to bear in mind is that we think of "chicken" as a single animal, but industrial farming has selectively bred chickens into very different camps.

Meat chickens grow very big very quickly, and are killed for meat long before adulthood. You'd need to pause production a long enough time for them to grow into adulthood, then they would eventually lay eggs, but at a much slower rate than egg chickens, and requiring a lot more food (because of how big they are)

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

They're being killed because of the avian flu pandemic that's currently going on. Dead poultry generally doesn't lay eggs.

You still have legumes available.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 21 points 3 hours ago
[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 50 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

How about we introduce export tariffs on eggs instead.

[–] Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] whyalone@lemm.ee 17 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

This egg trade is insane, not a single euro country could help USA here simply because the us has a 340m+ population and that being said, it would take the entire eu support/ supply in order to meet the demand of the USA

[–] Noizth@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 40 minutes ago

It would take a sacrifice from EU countries to help an "ally" whose leadership will then threaten them, put more tariffs and make unfair deals when is your turn to request help.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 hour ago

Don't know how it is in Europe, but here in Canada we have marketing boards to ensure that we're always producing more food supply than needed. Because it's kinda bad to have less food than needed, so we want to have a little bit of margin to ensure that doesn't happen. BTW this is why food is a contentious trade issue with the US, we don't want to be dependent on food production that has no safety margin.

Anyway, it's very possible countries are producing more than they need and could supply the US with the excess. It may not meet all of the demand in the US, but it would help bring down the price a bit. Yes the prices wouldn't be the same as it was before the Avian flu outbreaks, but it would be lower than it is now.

It's something that could happen if Trump didn't burn all the goodwill with all of the allies of the US. According to Trump "We don't need anything they have." So you will pay more for things, because Trump thinks you don't need them.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 91 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

"Okay, but you have to become the 20th province of Finland."

[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 28 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I accept Finland's terms. Now that I'm a Finnish citizen, I would like to move to the country proper.

[–] Senseless@feddit.org 12 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (3 children)

First you have to learn proper Finnish swearing. For that I suggest "My summer car" on steam. As proof you'll have to get all achievements.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 4 points 2 hours ago

Peska perkele vittu.

I'll book my flight.

[–] TrenchcoatFullofBats@belfry.rip 3 points 2 hours ago

Perkele, kun vituttaa tämä helvetin krapula, mutta jumalauta, pitäähän sitä silti saatanan kauniina kesäpäivänä mennä pihalle perseilemään ja hitto soikoon, nauttia elämästä—vaikka päässä jyskyttää kuin paholaisen pikkuserkku vetäisi siellä Lordia rumpusoololla.

[–] techclothes@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago
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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 14 points 4 hours ago

Do not help this toxic nation! America is evil.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 40 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Seems strange to give eggs to a country who talks of just taking over countries left and right.

Maybe rotten eggs would be more suitable.

[–] painfulasterisk1@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

I'll provide eggs, if Musk-Trump steps down. Rinse/repeat as needed.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 3 points 56 minutes ago

This particular US government can't be negotiated with. Just like with Russia, its always a mistake to even enter into conversation with them or to let their diplomats land at the airport. All that can be done is to not talk to them for the next 45 months.

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 25 points 5 hours ago
[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 258 points 7 hours ago (7 children)

Nobody should send us eggs. Nobody should give us anything, given the government we have now

Orangeboi wants transactional, so give him transactional. Hold the US state department over the barrel as long as you can. Hold our feet to the fire. Make the negotiations as torturous and hostile as possible. Squeeze us until you see blood. Get absolutely everything you can out of any “deal” you make with us - it’s the “art of the deal”, after all.

There are huge swaths of Americans and political leadership that now really need to find out, because they’ve been fucking around and ruining things for far too long.

The US is going to be begging for more than just eggs in a few months. California is one of their biggest agricultural states and they have no water; Trump had them empty their reservoirs in an idiotic attempt to fight the wildfires earlier this year. Plus, the whole country is dependent on Canadian potash to fertilize their crops.

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[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I bet Finland feels Oeufal

[–] Astra@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago

On the contrary, I bet they feel eggcellent

[–] LaterRedditor@lemmy.world 15 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 3 hours ago

Did they even say thanks just once?

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Good for Finland.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 50 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

Egg prices aren’t high solely because of bird flu. They’re high because of regional monopolies and a price fixing cartel. The largest egg producers are seeing record profits.

I hope it’s clear that I’m not saying bird flu doesn’t exist or affect prices. I’m not much of a conspiracy theorist. But if I had to guess, I’d say it’s 10% bird flu and 90% companies raising prices in unison because they can blame bird flu. If it were just bird flu, the companies would be losing money.

NB: it feels very weird to call them “egg producers” because hens are the actual egg producers. Egg distributors, maybe? In any case, the distributors are doing fine and their only competition in most regions are small, organic farms whose eggs were already $7 a dozen. It’s just the low end of the market that’s gone crazy.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

I’d say it’s 10% bird flu and 90% companies raising prices in unison because they can blame bird flu.

Why yes, there was no consequences during covid so the companies are gonna keep doing this until there is consequences.

Remember the bread price fixing in Canada too, yeah, feels like such a long time ago

[–] GiantChickDicks@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 hours ago

This is important to bring up. If we want to stop being subjected to this kind of fuckery, we need to unite and vote with our dollars. I love making egg-based dishes, but there are other options. The real problem is most people struggle with the idea of making sacrifices to get what they want later. Just don't buy eggs as an average consumer if they are that unaffordable.

In the United States, we are spoiled for choice when we shop. We're used to being able to get what we want when we want it, and that's led to a sense of entitlement. Eat other things, get creative. Look up effective substitutions for eggs in baking.

We don't have to take this. So don't.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 22 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

it feels very weird to call them “egg producers”

Chicken pimps?

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[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The part that kills me about all this is that there is a bird flu vaccine, but US poultry farmers aren't allowed to use it because then we couldn't export eggs to other countries. There was a really good CBS Sunday Morning segment about this.

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

then we couldn't export eggs to other countries

Why?

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 49 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Every country should avoid doing business with Trump’s regime because he will screw you over either way.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 26 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Trump still owes my county from his 2016 campaign. He rented out the fairgrounds for a rally and never paid up.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 19 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Your county officials made an unofficial donation to the trump campaign in 2016, is what actually happened.

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