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A family says their newborn son nearly bled to death and is fighting for his life after he was circumcised at a New York City hospital.

Tim and Gabrielle Groth said their son, Cole, underwent the circumcision at NewYork-Presbyterian Morgan Stanley Children's Hospital in Manhattan, where he was born on March 31.

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[–] blady_blah@lemmy.world 79 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Stop circumcising children. Let men decide if they want to be circumcised when they reach the age of consent at the age of 18. I guarantee circumcision will drop by 95% or more.

And if that's the case, that circumcision only exists if you don't give the boy the choice, then don't fucking force this on an infant!

[–] rmic@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Let's replace "curcumsising" with "imposing religion" to get the same result

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[–] sploosh@lemmy.world 65 points 6 days ago (4 children)

There's a really easy way to tell whether or not you should decide to circumcise a penis. First, check if it's your penis. If it isn't your penis, don't circumcise it BECAUSE THAT IS NOT YOUR DICK AND YOU DO NOT GET TO DECIDE WHICH FLESH BELONGS AND WHICH DOESN'T ON IT.

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[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 89 points 6 days ago

Stop mutilating your children.

Stupid fucking parents.

[–] MrTolkinghoen@lemmy.zip 32 points 5 days ago

Male genital mutilation.

[–] Matombo@feddit.org 44 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Until about a year ago or something I didn't even know that it's such a common practice in the USA. For me it always was just a religios thing of Jews and for some rare medical cases where the foreskin opening is too tight.

But now I know that it's apparently considerd normal? dafuq

Be assured it's defenetly not in germany unless you are jewish.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

...or Muslim. But yes, the US has this horrible practice of mutilating all kids. Just like some third-world countries.

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 8 points 5 days ago

Nah, just the male children.

Yeah, it's said to have some kind of nebulous health benefits here.

It really goes back to the turn of the 20th century, when all kinds of health gurus claimed it would curb masturbation (which they blamed for a variety of ills), but nobody says that anymore.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 days ago

Fortunately it's been in decline since the late 70s, but it still shouldn't be done

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Doing it as religious tradition isn't a justification as well, its still fuckin weird to mutilate a kids genitals without their consent

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 87 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Why do they still perform such barbaric rites in the 21st century in the first place?

[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I mean look who's sitting in the oval office. Science has progressed but most humans have not.

[–] turnip@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Yet theyre against mutilating genitals when it comes to trans people.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 days ago

Yeah, the first time I heard of people protesting against "mutilating children's genitals [in North America]", I thought it was a protest against circumcision. I thought, "Wow, we're finally moving society forward!"

...nope. It was backwards again.

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[–] MTK@lemmy.world 34 points 6 days ago

Crazy idea, don't do cosmetic surgery on a baby?

[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 6 days ago (2 children)

In parenting classes in my liberal area, the nurses will say "I'm required to tell you that circumcision has medical benefits". Then they fume how it's based off bad research and cut themselves short. "However it's not like your son will be lined up for a nude photo. You can break the cycle of trauma". I'm lucky to live here.

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 53 points 6 days ago (1 children)

As a Jewish person im absolutely ashamed that my people still practice mutilation. When a tradition causes severe medical problems it should not continue.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 45 points 6 days ago

It's not even strictly a Jewish thing, as much as it is just an American thing at this point. My parents were only mildly Christian and got me circumcised at the recommendation of the doctor. They didn't really think much about it because being circumcised is just "the norm". My dad is circumcised, and my mom said she wanted to make sure I looked like my father (why she expected me to be catching so many glances of dad-dong in life, I'll never know).

That said, whether or not it should be, a circumcision is still a very routine procedure, so it's kinda astounding that they botched it so badly. Hopefully the kid makes it without any lasting damage.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 32 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Maybe we should stop routine elective cosmetic penis surgery on infants?

[–] Aragaren@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Stop with the "cosmetic surgery" and call it what it is...genital mutilation!

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's both. Parents want their babies to have designer penises, so they pay doctors to mutilate them for aesthetic reasons. It is mutilation, and it is cosmetic surgery.

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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's not elective. They baby can't elect to having part of their genitals cut off.

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[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 43 points 6 days ago (15 children)

It's ironic because the whole reason I'm even here on lemmy is because I was permabanned from reddit for telling someone to crawl back in their hole because they were defending circumcision while claiming female genital mutilation was abhorrent. As if mutilating a penis is perfectly fine but don't dare mutilate a vulva.

I know this isn't the main topic here but it just reminds me that body shaming men is okay but body shaming women isn't. Especially when it comes to sex organs.

[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 19 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Yeah, I love how everyone loves "big dick energy" and "small dick energy", but if someone said "loose pussy energy" and "tight pussy energy" it's practically a hate crime lol.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How about we just stop insulting anyone's genitals instead?

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 days ago

That's the point.

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[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 6 days ago

Awful parents.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

Luckily is was almoat, it happens every year. It's rare but it possible to bleed to death from this

I married a woman of jewish descent, she’s not religious in any way though. It was alarming, the amount of people coming up to us and asking us about our child’s dick. Why do people think it’s any of their business? Since they over stepped and asked, I gave them the full answer, complete with how idiotic it is and how anyone who still practices it is a backwards ass religious nut, and how all those other reasons like hygiene are bullshit myths.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago
[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Unless you’re some religious nut job, there is zero benefit and a lot of harm you can do by circumcising. So stop doing it.

EDIT: I was wrong, there is some medical reasons for the procedure later in life to address problems.

[–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

This is a general statement, and not factual. To say there is zero benefit (across the board): wrong. There are benefits, medically, for specific people with issues that warrant it. I had a later-in-life circumcision for medical problems, so I know. To say it is something you should do to a newborn: very wrong. This is something that has a fucked up history, and should only be done when needed (or wanted, I suppose) later in a person's life... of their own choosing.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I’m sorry, I hadn’t considered that it might be done later to correct a problem. I honestly hope you weren’t offended.

[–] ChanchoManco@lemm.ee 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

These exchanges are why I love Lemmy.

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[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This has to be qualified more strongly. Most of the medical benefits of circumcision are apparent only after puberty. There is no medical reason to circumsize a baby.

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