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NOTE: This thread concerns the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement; not internal combustion engines.

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[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 85 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Sugar in the gas tank will not ruin the engine, the most it will do is maybe clog the fuel filter.

Bleach on the other hand is an Oxidizer, it will cause certain metals to rust extremely fast....

[–] tourist@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This still assumes access to the fuel tank

We can work backwards and double down on this problem by making sure it remains inaccessible for as long as possible.

Ideally, you would want to weld the fuel hole shut, but that may be impractical. Depositing a cartoonish amount of very strong glue into the fuel cap cover can be a more realistic compromise.

Attempts to regain access may leave the fuel tank vulnerable where it can then be double tapped with bleach.

or just use a flathead screwdriver idk im high

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

What about that absorbent gel made to clean up tanker truck spills I think I've seen some sold to make toilet replacement easier

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I've never considered what a shitload of silica gel would do inside a gas tank.... It can't be anything good, but I doubt it would get past the fuel filter. The vehicle probably won't run but the fix isn't super difficult, just a new fuel tank + pump and you're good to go.

Pouring it into the oil intake would have much more interesting results but you aren't getting in there unless a) you have cab access to pop the hood latch, or b) you're willing and able to destroy so much of the vehicle to access that that whatever you do afterward starts to not even matter.

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[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 79 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Am I crazy or does everyone in the comments not realize they're talking about ICE the federal agency?

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 37 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You're as sane as I was in 2019. Looks like 196 has more gearheads than Americans.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 13 points 2 weeks ago

I though we were talking about German express trains.

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[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 55 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Sugar in a gas tank is not nearly as damaging as just pouring water in it.

[–] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Doesn't it just clog up the fuel filter because it won't dissolve in gasoline?

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Bingo, and it takes a lot to clog the filter. Plain water is more of a nuisance.

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[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 38 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Law nerds: can ironical intent be proven in court?

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 62 points 2 weeks ago

Serious answer: The US gov is past using courts or caring what the laws says

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Think the fbi has officially recognized the term "in minecraft" as possible real intent

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[–] Nomad@infosec.pub 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You realize that's why they use mostly unmarked vehicles?

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[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm surprised I haven't seen more calls to puncture the radiator. That would lead to the engine shutting off and being immobilized pretty quickly.

[–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Would puncturing the bottom radiator hose not really leak until the pump starts up? Like it would be a slight drip that could be overlooked/unnoticed and a full stream once on and running. Hopefully after driving away a few miles.

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah that's why I think radiator damage is the way to go. They will most likely get stuck on the freeway which is a royal fucking pain.

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[–] 33550336@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

It's easier to damage radiator (which is preety soft) with a screwdriver.

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[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 21 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Put a BB in the valve stem cap. It's non-destructive, but will still result in a flat tire. If you super glue the BB, they might end up with several flats before they realize.

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[–] 33550336@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Putting sugar in the gas tank does not work (unless in a movie). You can clog exhaust pipe or penetrate tire.

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[–] LordGimp@lemm.ee 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Water balloons + black oil paint + used motor oil + a handful of course sand = absolute hell on car paint, polycarbonate panes (think security helmet visors or those see through riot shields), and anything with feet that likes to walk around.

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[–] Ekybio@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

What would exactly happen if one woule pour sugar in the gas tank? Like on a chemical and mechanical level?

First time hearing about this

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 49 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's a myth perpetuated by people who don't know better. By all means, putting sugar in a gas tank is not advised because, well, sugar doesn't belong in there. But it will not ruin the engine. If it even reaches the engine, you have a pretty bad fuel filter.

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

bleach will do some interesting things

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Bleach in the oil was the destruction method mandated by Cash for Clunkers if I remember correctly.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Man, I hate that program. Destroying tons of cool classic cars and making used cars in general needlessly expensive. Absolutely wasteful and counterproductive. I mean, sure, !fuckcars, but not like that!

If they wanted to stimulate the economy that bad they should've increased spending on bike/ped/transit infrastructure or something like that instead.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly I am still convinced that it was a handout, though not directly, to the auto industry because Obama had campaigned on saving Detroit but the bailouts weren’t enough to keep GM and Chrysler afloat. (Ford, in a business move that I wish was more common but also because they were dying before the recession, leveraged the blue oval logo as collateral on a loan.)

[–] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

It was totally a handout, pretty much explicitly:

the Car Allowance Rebate System (CARS, commonly known as 'Cash-For-Clunkers'), one of several stimulus programs whose purpose was to shift expenditures by households, businesses, and governments from future periods when the economy is likely to be stronger, to the present when the economy has an abundance of unemployed resources that can be put to work at low net economic cost.

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2010/04/05/did-cash-clunkers-work-intended

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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Nothing. Sugar is not soluble in hydrocarbons and the particles would be caught by the fuel filter. You'd have to replace the filter and clean the fuel tank, but the engine would be fine. Might as well use dirt instead of sugar to achieve the same effect.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Well then you would uh... ice ICE's ICE.

bad dum tish!

Not really though, basically, it clogs up the fuel pump/filter.

Not likely to... immediately or quickly immobilize the vehicle... but it would increase maintenance costs, and decrease fuel efficiency and reliability.

...

If you wanna go for something uh... faster acting, more immediate and more serious:

A whole lot of water.

That'll make the engine choke and sputter and stall if you use enough.

So... use ice to ice ICE's ICE?

Uh... in minecraft?

...

Sand will also clog up the filter, and cause more damage inside the actual engine if any gets through the filter.

... A whole bunch of polystyrene packing peanuts would ... also be 'fun', rofl.

The way they chemically interact with gasoline... basically gellifies the gasonline, turning it into shitty, syrupy napalm.

I am guessing a very gooopy gasoline is... not going to help a car run well, please actually do not test this rofl.

I am not a chemist, but uh chat gpt says polystyrene + gasoline is an exothermic reaction... so that... generates heat... and gasses... and that could be bad... in a tightly sealed container...

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[–] Omega_Man@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I find it interesting that these posts are dated 2019. I don't remember this being an issue pre-covid.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Well I mean the department of homeland security was established like one minute after 9/11 happened and thats who is in charge of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, so they've been fucking around in the rights of US citizens and noncitizens since then

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 9 points 2 weeks ago

I remember family separations was a big deal during his first term. And then there was that US citizen teen who was imprisoned by ICE in Texas....

[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Okay, won't do that 🫡

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Doesn’t have to be a big hole in the sidewall, you can’t put a plug in it no matter the size so a needle can render a tire FUBAR

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