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[–] plm00@lemmy.ml 83 points 1 month ago (31 children)

It makes it more accessible to the lazy and talentless.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago (4 children)

As someone with the fine motor control of someone made of all elbows, who couldn’t hope to ever draw anything and who leaves that up to people with talent and work ethic for money, all of the cool things in my head that die there because they’re better in my imagination than I could ever express through words or art.

I feel seen.

[–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (24 children)

Give digital art programs a try. There's plenty of free alternatives to the big subscription model vultures out there, there's GIMP for image editing, Krita for drawing, Blender for 3D, DaVinci Resolve for video editing, Audacity and Pro Tools Free for sound recording and editing, you can even make modular synths using VCV Rack. And if you like rum and eye patches theres versions of the big players out there too.

I am absolutely shit at drawing, but professionally I make 3d animations, having drawing skills helps, but it's not necessary to learn any one of these.

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[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Art is not about the destination. It's about the journey. Deaf compositors made music knowing they would never hear it.

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[–] nightlily@leminal.space 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Isn’t creating art despite those obstacles meaningful though? Art is always going to be an imperfect copy of what is in our head and absolutely nothing about generative AI can possibly change that. But artists have intent and all their experience in every line they make - that’s part of the joy and tragedy of it and what makes it so human.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Yes.

In the same way that some people are satisfied with fast food, AI folks are satisfied with fast art - despite that they may be poisoning themselves.

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[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's why it's so so so popular with conservatives (and fascist now). There is something about having skill in art that makes you a lot less likely to be conservative. It's about the material circumstances that lead people to become artists, I'd guess.

So now all these Nazis can make Trump memes by typing something stupid into a prompt. It's ugly. It's not intelligent or creative but it's just enough to spread their hateful propaganda. AI art is awful. But it's 100x better than what these fascist could ever hope to create.

Seriously. I feel like the only real use case for AI art right now is making awful fascist propaganda. At least it's the only area of "art" that is actually seeing "improvement" from it.

Which tells you a lot about how these fascist idiots complain about "culture" so much but have actually no culture or art of their own.

If you need a gross example just search for the AI Trump Gaza video. The purpose isn't art. But it's still serving the role that art plays in propaganda.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The part I hate most is the "$800 phone" part. At least get a proper PC where you've got a fighting chance at being able to create stuff instead of a smartphone/tablet with an interface designed purely to consume, damn it!

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I can do some pixelart on my S23 Ultra, and even sketch some ideas down in work.

[–] Little8Lost@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

somewhere i should have a collection of "borrowed" ikea pencils

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 22 points 1 month ago

What they mean by that is that they have no artistic ability and no interest in learning anything about how to actually make art, they just want a product to spec for free.

[–] RustyNova@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Devils advocate here. There's open source services that offers AI gen for free, as long as you have an internet connection.

So a potato phone could be used and that's all that's required.

-# Doesn't make it more accessible than actual pen and paper but the gap is not that big either

[–] o1011o@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I would argue that 'free' just means the cost is hidden and you might end up paying it anyway through the societal effects that the energy demands of LLMs cause. That is, there's a cost and it will make it back to you somehow or other because that's how tech oligarchy works.

[–] RustyNova@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Definitely. But the point here is the accessiblity. If you gotta argue about the accessiblity you gotta set the record straight on both sides

I'm pretty against AI. I just like my facts corrects

[–] Zwrt 5 points 1 month ago

Llms arent the same ai as image gen though.

Your thinking of ChatGPT like services.

StableDiffusion on al old laptop will take less energy then a modern game, maybe slightly more then a digital painting software.

Its also fully open source and offline, you can check the code if you want.

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago

Internet connection already stops a lot of people

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 17 points 1 month ago (10 children)

People get hilariously upset when you point out that sucking absolute arse at something is not a class issue nor a disability.

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[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 month ago (5 children)

It's not about accessibility moneywise - it's accessibility skillwise. Many people do not want to put any effort into learning a new skill, so asking AI to do it for them is just way more convenient and "accessible".

This is part of a large shift in society where "failure" is seen as something extremely negative. You either do something and are immediately good at it, or you should just stop altogether.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 9 points 1 month ago

You either do something and are immediately good at it, or you should just stop altogether.

I bet this line speaks to a lot of fellow lemmings who are middle aged nerds with ADHD and were “gifted” in school.

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 15 points 1 month ago

This post isn't accessible. Dont post pictures of text without transcribing it

[–] jannaultheal@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I never spent any money on AI. Use locally run open source models.

[–] epicstove@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Doesn't that require a load of computer power? My computer could start a house fire opening a PDF.

[–] jannaultheal@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Depends on your hardware (such as your graphics card). But it's definitely possible and a lot of people do it.

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[–] mke@programming.dev 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There's someone close to me whose near entire existence is basically pain. They still draw.

They hate the idea that their works got sucked by billionaires into giant plagiarism machines that are enriching them further. Pro AI people and tech bros think they should just suck it up and start using fucking AI horde or something, despite the fact that this trend makes them sick and the proposed solutions don't tackle real issues, but spread or ignore them.

One of my main gripes with GenAI is the tech industry's usual disregard for consent. GenAI users saying we should get rid of it altogether doesn't endear their ideal future to me. Saying the same thing as Sam Altman, but totally in a leftist way, just grosses me out.

[–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, but how much did you cost?

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Fun fact two days ago I got a price tag tattoo on my hip for $646,990.37, so at least that much

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

$30 a month so far, will be a lot more if their plan of forcing artists out works out.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 month ago

The main thing here is that image generation trough an llm doesn’t even count as creating.

Asking is not creating. In these systems people ask an llm to use a genai tool, the people never actually touch the tool themselves. (They wont even allow it lol)

Thats why ComfyUi with stable diffusion and not chatgpt is the standard for serious art work using ai.

They are fully open source, offline and they don’t require any more energy then playing a video game.

Also workflows look like this, more accessible means a different set of skills can now get you similar results. But it is still skill.

you indeed dont need to know how to hold a pencil to build that.

(Also there are more and more models exclusively trained with artist consent)

So yes, ai does make art more accessible to a small group of technical people. Most people know no one in this group.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think it seems to usually be more about disabled people, who ai bros tend to consider either too stupid or physically unable to make real art, which is bullshit. There are amputees painting with their feet, who knows how many artists who have prosthetic hands or chronic pain. And don't even get me started on mentally disabled people.

[–] aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm sure all disabled people love hearing "Oh this other disabled guy showed extraordinary willpower and overcame his disability against all odds why can't you"

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