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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Bellamy
Francis Julius Bellamy (May 18, 1855 – August 28, 1931) was an American Christian socialist Baptist minister and author.[1] He is best known for writing the original version of the Pledge of Allegiance in 1892.
Most of the people who have "we the people" plastered on their car probably don't realize the preamble to the constitution also says "insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare".
Welfare? WELFARE??
They would froth at the mouth and collapse.
Boondocks vibes
That was such a great show.
If they could read.
I bet that most of those people if told there was a country (without telling them which country it was) whose constitution says they must "promote the general Welfare" would say that it must be a Communist country.
"The Founding Fathers were Welfare Queens!"
...they made people that didn't have freedoms say the pledge.
You did have the freedom, but nobody told you that you did. There aren't a lot of perks to growing up a Jehovah's Witness, but never having recited the pledge is one of them.
Every accusation is a confession.
They’re so hard for patriotism because they themselves are traitorous cunts and they assume everyone is and needs to be kept in line.
I got in-school suspension for refusing to stand for the pledge, they told the kid from Puerto Rico they’d ship him back on the dingy he sailed in on.
Im still blown away at the amount of our population that doesn't know puerto rico can come and go to any of the 50 states whenever they want...
Damn, when/where was that? I was raised in Alabama and didn't stand/recite the pledge a few times in high school around 2010 and didn't get in trouble for it. Definitely got some snide remarks and looks, but never actually in trouble.
Phillipsburg High School, New Jersey. IIRC. ~2003
Not long after 9.11 so things were a bit tense I guess.
If Metallica released their 1988 album And Justice for All today, MAGA would whine and accuse them of going "woke".
Ironically, classic rock/metal is having a really hard time grasping the concept of not being assholes
Yeah, I grew up as a huge Megadeth fan. They had a lot of anti-war, anti-religion, anti-establishment lyrics. Imagine my surprise when Dave Mustaine turned out to be a conservative.
I think a lot of the classic rock vibe was about being anti-establishment, with little or no care for the actual ideas behind it. MAGA people see themselves as anti-establishment (despite, you know, everything), so it makes sense that a lot of the more superficial classic rock people would adopt it as their persona.
me too. huge disappointment, even though i still like his output.
doing that much drugs and alcohol will inevitably fuck up your head.
Twisted Sister: "We're not gonna take it!"
Narrator: "They did, in fact, continue to take it."
Dee Snider at least had the conviction to stand up in front of Congress (Along with John Denver and Frank Zappa) to defend against music censorship (fuck you Tipper Gore). He's not exactly a radical leftist but he's been consistently pro-Ukraine and vocally opposed to Trump (and George W. before that)
That's true; I'm maybe being a little unfair to to the guy. That said, I was thinking more in terms of the song being an anthem for Gen X, and the generation as a whole letting us younger folks down.
It was always a tool of indoctrination. As it turns out, if you say something often enough, true or not, you tend to believe it.
To make it make sense, ask yourself "was this ever really true?" And, of course nothing is perfect, but what I mean to invoke is the idea that perhaps it was never even remotely true.
Everyone on the outside is definitely wondering what the point was if you guys don't uphold it.
We thought it was a nuts ritual before but now it's just cultish.
If there is no "liberty and justice for all" then there is no "one nation, indivisible".
Time to split.
The Constitution is an agreed upon framework of rights and laws in this country. If the executive branch fails to uphold any part of it, you do not have an individual responsibility to follow it. "President" trump has violated the emoluments clause, and should have been impeached immediately. He is attacking birthright citizenship, ignoring court orders, including orders from the Supreme Court. It is the literal definition of unconstitutional.
At this point the law in America is : Do whatever the fuck you want, as long as you have the guns and propensity for violence to back it up. Most people just haven't realized it yet. The only way out is for Congress to swiftly (hah) impeach Trump (hah again), put his ass in jail (hah x3) before people start shooting. We may already be too late. This charade has gone on too long.
Do whatever the fuck you want, as long as ~~you have the guns and propensity for violence to back it up.~~ you're wealthy and powerful enough to get away with it.
Start shooting and you'll be killed or sent to El Salvador for the rest of your life. The majority of the population would have to act simultaneously to overwhelm the military and law enforcement.
Interesting read. Most people miss that Jew in the Bible sounded like a Communist. But you already know my version of my faith clashes with the Council of Nicea version, and why.
Btw, I came across an interesting tidbit this morning in my YT meanderings I didn't know that I thought may interest you, but didn't know where to post it. It's a pamphlet written by a British member of parliament, and distributed in the streets sometime in 1937. I didn't want to creep you out by popping up in your DM unasked, if you're interested, I can DM it to you and you can post it if you wish.
My DMs are always open for interesting pieces of history!
I'd appreciate it too, if you don't mind DMing another stranger. 🙏
I was skeptical about the poa by the 3rd grade. By the 5th, I was singing the Canadian anthem, because fuck this bullshit. By hs I wasn't even standing, just sitting at my desk with that deeply annoyed look you get from customers waiting while the person in front of them takes 10 minutes to complete their transaction, and they pull out an expired coupon and their checkbook.
E: thanks autocorrect
"Under God" makes entire sense when you remember that, if Americans have ONE shared cultural trait, it's being morally flexible as long as you get rich. Trying to get rich is the only command they'll follow, the one thing they'll all agree upon. And they surely trust in their God printed on green paper, lol.
Your post is double funny because "under god" was only added in the 1950s during the red scare, and at the same time "in god we trust" was added to the money.
Look at all these slavemasters posing on your dollars
Thank you for this, had no idea.
Yes im serious idk how reddit like this is so I'll clarify that for now lol
This is like reddit in appearance but not attitude... mostly. If you had just said your first sentence I would have taken it as serious.
So don't sweat it motherfucker.
One nation indivisible
Their liberty to be anti-vax, anti-environmental, anti-mask, etc. and their rigged justice to force everyone else to suffer it.
Focus on the Undergod?
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I should have my child add "including immigrants" to the end whenever he says it in school, committee meetings, or Scouts.
Have him leave out the god part. It was added to weed out communists spies from the USSR, because they totally aren't allowed to lie about being religious...
Frankly, minus the religion mumbojumbo, the pledge is a great thing to aspire to, especially if you consider the flag a stand-in to represent the rights and freedoms of your countrymen.
“No see, that was before. But now you have to pledge your allegiance to one party.” - Sums up the American experience
Liberty and justice are socialist things?
"For all", at least by American conservative estimates, would seem to fall under their label of dangerous socialist ideas.