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Housing crisis? There ain't no stinkn' housing crisis.

There is, however, an 'overabundance of stupid' crisis.

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[–] Wizzard@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

We have a similar problem in some downtown places here - Investors / rich-folk buy them up for reasons, and then when they are done (or 'disused') they sit empty for ever, driving prices up.

I believe I saw a motion (but no action) to tax empty condos at a higher rate than fully-occupied ones.

[–] AsyncTheYeen@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Captalist democracy is not real democracy

[–] Daryl@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Can you really have 'true democracy' in a species that has such a strong herd mentality as humans do? True democracy depends on 'free will', 'independent thought', and 'knowledge'. When the population in general can be so easily swayed to go along with one person's dogma or another, willfully ignorant and politically unintelligent, what is the meaning of 'democracy' except that it is about 'best at intimidating, charming, or marketing'? In a herd species, the 'election' is all about 'who do you want to be the dictator?'

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

We have the technology to switch from representative democracy to direct democracy. There would also need to be major changes to educate everyone on the topics being voted on. That would be a huge improvement if we can keep that education less corrupted by monied interests.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A true democracy would be incredibly easy to implement.

Our government could literally just make an app that sends us everything to individually vote on instead of our reps getting to vote.

[–] Daryl@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That still leads to the 'herd mentality' problem. The impressionable voter is still too easily persuaded to vote 'dogma/cult' than 'informed decision'. Human adults, unfortunately, by and large prefer someone else to make their decisions for them, and they tend to vote in alignment with the decisions made by these 'influencers'. Look no further than the last Canadian election - the Catholic bishops in Canada (under the direction of a foreign power - the Pope) all told the Canadian Catholics how to vote (in the last weeks of the election), and it almost swayed the election to PP.

Steve Jobs famously had it absolutely dead-on when he said, about consumer input into his Apple products: 'Consumers have absolutely no idea of what they like and want until I tell them'.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

There is no herd mentality problem, this is propaganda from those who seek to rule.

You either have tyranny of the majority or tyranny of the minority

Democracy is tyranny of the majority

[–] Daryl@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It has been pretty much ascertained, even at the neurological level, that humans are a herd animal. For instance:

https://academic.oup.com/book/11486/chapter-abstract/160205905?login=false

The fact is, those who completely understand this, and have learned how to manipulate it, will be the ones who rule.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I'm saying it's not something we should sacrifice individual influence for

We have learned that even in representative democracies the representatives often ignore the people who they are supposed to represent, and that is far more damaging.

[–] Daryl@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

It really comes down to: do the citizens want a collective socially responsible leadership or an individual rights dictates all leadership. Socialism or Libertarianism. You cannot have a system that continuously waffles from one to the other, like the Americans are trying to do. The problem with 'democracy' as it is practiced in American society is that they insist on using a two-party (socialism vs libertarianism) adversarial system that keeps battling back and forth, winner take all. In that system, the 'election' only determines which side gets to tyrannize the other side. No matter who wins, the other side feels threatened by 'terrorism from the other side's dogma'.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 35 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Just allocating these for unhoused people would make Vancouver have no unhoused people. https://vancouver.ca/people-programs/homeless-count.aspx#%3A%7E%3Atext=Results%3A%2C605+unsheltered fuck for profit housing.

[–] MyBrainHurts@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'm just picturing a couple families in a Coal Harbour building meeting their new neighbours, including that guy I watched punch a brick wall while yelling about the "shit Panic fucks" before I had to nope the fuck out of there (I'm dark enough that I get tagged with almost non Caucasian ethnicity.)

[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 days ago

Kind of ironic that as a Coal Harbour resident, the scariest person of the neighbourhood is a bald white dude that harasses any visibly vulnerable that passes by, also random people at times but he's a bully so he prefers harassing the homeless, delivery drivers and random minorities. He lives at the building right in front of mine and I'd trade him for getting as new neighbours 10 currently unhoused citizens undergoing treatment, because this bald fuck surely isn't treating whatever he has going on. Fucking "concerned citizens", much worse than whoever makes them clutch pearls.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago

I can imagine that being scary. But I'd also say that wellness checks should be made to struggling families for them to succeed.

[–] Frederic@beehaw.org 12 points 3 days ago

Same problem in Montréal, thousands of empty condos, they are small and expensive. And condo fee kill the deal compared to owning a house...

[–] Templa@beehaw.org 6 points 3 days ago

Our neighbour unit is sitting empty since we moved last july. It is a 3 bedroom unit.

[–] toastmeister@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Carney was actually just asked about the housing crisis, here it is at 20:30 into the video:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q_C9a5BWiTE&pp=ygUQY2FybmV5IHF1ZXN0aW9ucw%3D%3D&start=1227

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Carney must be the first PM that I can remember, who actually fleshes out answers, rather than avoiding them. Impressive, to say the least, as it shows a clear understanding of the subjects he's being asked about.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He's still skirting around the real issue which is allowing property owners to keep increasing rents and buying up housing with no oversight.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's one part of a many part problem.

Housing (including rent) isn't solely the responsibility of the federal government, but I'm glad to see that they are getting more involved.

Provinces and municipal/regional governments play a much greater role, so we need to pressure all levels of government to step up their efforts.

[–] DriftingLynx@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Exactly. It's great that the feds want to fix things... but the Provinces hold most of the levers being directly responsible for letting things devolve so far.

Here in BC Christy Clarke threw gasoline on the fire in 2016'ish and I watched condo prices jump 50% in months. I was lucky to have a condo to sell, but I also couldn't afford that same condo for the price I sold it. It's bonkers how much prices have gone up.

The NDP here has done something, if not enough.

In the end it's a pretty intractable problem. As a country we bet on housing as an investment and now we're paying the piper so to speak.

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