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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 32 points 6 days ago
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  4. 10
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The astronaut should've told the alien "I use base 22."

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Every base is base 10 than except base 1.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

All bases should be quoted in Base-1, the basedest of bases

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 143 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think when I first saw this comic, the punchline was "what's a four?" which I find funnier.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Yes this is the better version that I've seen too

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[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Every number system is base 10.

Binary is base 1+1.
Ternary is base 2+1.
Octal is base 7+1.
Decimal is base 9+1.
Duodecimal is base B+1.
Hexadecimal is base F+1.

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[–] owl@infosec.pub 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I like the little detail, that the alien has 10 fingers.

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 7 points 6 days ago

The alien in the weird suit has 22 fingers

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What do you mean? They have 11

[–] owl@infosec.pub 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Are you using a 10th base, that does not exist in the comic?

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 2 points 6 days ago

yeah, base 3

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] HKPiax@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (7 children)
[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 109 points 1 week ago

When you count up the 1's place, you go 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 and then it rolls over into the 10s place.

But in "base 4", it goes: 0,1,2,3,10,11,12,13,20. 3 is the highest value possible in any of the digits place.

Therefore "10" in base 4 = 4 in base 10, but saying it in base 4 is written as 10.

You can change your base to any base and whatever base it is would have to be written as base 10 because the number above the highest one in that base doesnt exist, it's 10.

[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Lots of good explanations here, but one thing I'd like to clarify. WHY we add digits together to represent larger numbers. Understanding this helped me to count in binary when I was a young IT technician.

In base 10, we have 10 numbers we use to count everything, each represented by a single digit 0-9. There is no single digit to represent the number 10, so we add a digit to the left and start over at 0 on the right. Hence, the number 10. Then 11-19 in serial.

But we've run out of digits to use again. So we add another digit to the left and start over on the right. Thus, 20.

When you get to 100, you're now starting over at the right-most digit and have to fill up both right digits before the left digit moves up one.

Same goes for binary, where the only two digits are 0 and 1. Once you've counted to one, you've run out of digits to use, so you add a 1 to the left and start over on the right. So 2 is written as 10 in binary. Then 3 is 11. Then you've run out of digits again, so you add another one to the far left and start over. 4 is 100. 5 is 101. 6 is 110. 7 is 111. No more space, so add another 1 to the left and start over. 8 is 1000. 9 is 1001. 10 is 1010. 11 is 1011. 12 is 1100. And so on...

With computers, we sometimes use a hexadecimal numbering system, also known as base 16 (hex = 6, deca = 10). In this case, we need 16 unique digits before we start reusing them. So we borrow from the alphabet. We use 0-9, then go through A-F before we add a 1 to the left and start over at 0.

You can literally create a base-anything and use that to count numbers. Once you figure out how we add digits to count, it's super easy!

[–] Cenotaph@mander.xyz 10 points 1 week ago

Good ELI5 of the concept

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[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The number to describe a base is always the number 10 in that base

For example binary is base 2, it has only 1 and 0 as digits, and 2 in binary is 10.

Similarly for 4, and base 10.

So no matter what your numbering system is, with that system it is always base “10”

[–] weird@sub.wetshaving.social 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Every base has a 10. Base 4 numbering goes 1, 2, 3, 10, 11, 12, 20 etc...

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] weird@sub.wetshaving.social 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My bad, but I guess I won't have bad luck

[–] kittehx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 week ago

that's 7 in base 10, so actually it's good luck you're not having

(assuming luck goes by numerical value and not written representation)

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[–] lefixxx@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (11 children)

It's a language issue. We say 10 because we don't have a single digit symbol to represent 10. If a alien with 20 fingers came we wouldn't recognized their symbols for anything bigger than 9. Base 4 creatures don't use 4 because after 3 comes 10 for them.

[–] SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Base 16 is used all the time in computer science. The symbols for 9+ aren't arcane or unrecognizable it's 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F. It's often written with an 0X in front to indicate hexadecimal or something like 'h for hex and 'd for decimal.

Examples:

  • 'h7 = 'd7
  • 'hC = 'd12
  • 'hF = 'd15
  • 'h7CF = 'd(7 × 16^2^) + (12 × 16^1^) + (15 × 16^0^) = 'd1792 + 'd192 + 'd15 = 'd1999
[–] lefixxx@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yeah I know but base16 creatures would use 10 to express 16 not "G"

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[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] Shellbeach@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

are belong to us

[–] TheThrillOfTime@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

When I was bored in math class I used to convert my homework into binary to see if it still worked.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

For funzies convert your numbers to floats, and operate on bits.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Every base is base 10.

What about base 0? Checkmate, mathists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unary_numeral_system

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[–] Tja@programming.dev 14 points 1 week ago

Humans use base 0x0A. Beep boop.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

all your base are belong to us

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[–] ragas@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

If the human was smart he would say that we use base 22. Then everyone would understand.

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[–] SuperApples@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (8 children)

In Chinese/Japanese, there's 四 rocks in both base 10, and base 4. (8 rocks would be 二四 in base 4).

I think the concept of "base" is easier to understand when you include a numeral for the highest base (10 = 十, 20 =二十).

Of course, arabic numerals are more concise, using position to imply meaning (21 = 二十一).

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[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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