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[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 119 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Imagine if the pigs had just, like, bought those kids shoes. You know, improve the lives of other people

Sincerely, not just a quote or a meme, fuck the police.

This just in! It wasn't just the cops it was also NORFOLK FUCKING SOUTHERN!

The good news is that they dropped the burglary charges. The bad news is that they've instilled a distrust in police among the black community for at least another generation.

[-] logos@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 year ago

Good point. Did they buy a truckfull of Nikes just to fuck over some kids?

What did they do with them afterwards?

[-] cedarmesa@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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[-] Clent@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Think you mean also good news for that last sentence. ACAB is an important life lesson.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Norfolk Southern, the fun boys and girls that chemo-nuked east Palestine?

[-] weeeeum@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago

The police would have infinite times more trust if they weren't so hell bent on incriminating innocent people. From lying and coercing to you to get a confession, trying to search your home and vehicle without warrants and setting up traps that innocent people may fall for like this. There is no trust in the police because trusting them is the worst thing you can do.

Obligatory reminder to never speak to the police without a lawyer, they will use anything you say to attempt to convict you.

[-] cedarmesa@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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[-] trinitrotoluene@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Such petty things give those dipshits a sense of power

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 year ago

That sounds a lot like entrapment, which I thought was illegal.

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago

I think it's only entrapment in a legal sense if the cop tells you take the sneakers. Simply presenting someone an opportunity to commit a crime isn't entrapment.

If a cop went over to the kids and said "hey look, that truck is full of sneakers and no one is around, so you should go take them" that would be entrapment. But the sneakers just being there and the kids on their own accord deciding they should steal them isn't entrapment.

It's a really shitty thing to do to be sure, but doesn't fit the legal definition of entrapment as far as I know.

[-] StarkillerX42@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

It's only illegal if the kids know what entrapment is and go to court for it.

[-] CoderKat@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not entrapment. See https://thecriminallawyer.tumblr.com/post/19810672629/12-i-was-entrapped for a good explanation of what entrapment is and isn't. It's commonly misunderstood.

Though what it is is a very sketchy use of police resources.

[-] DagonPie@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

It is. But if the police ask them without a lawyer "did you steal those shoes" they dont know any better and will say yes. Then they can take that to court and their parents and say "They admitted to the crime" and then more bullshit continues. Thats why if you ever get arrested DONT SAY SHIT until a lawyer is present.

[-] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Don't say shit is my go-to after watching every forensic files episode. Seems like pretty much everyone gets convicted by admitting to it.

Clam up and let the police work it out. It's not your job to help them.

[-] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

It's called an attractive nuissance and it's only bad if normal people do it.

[-] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Who's gonna arrest them, the cops?

[-] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

Holy Fuck. I went to Snopes thinking that I would find that this was bullshit.

It was 2018, but it seems to be true.

snopes

[-] wheresmypillow@lemmy.one 32 points 1 year ago

“the truck was locked and required considerable effort to break into, and that perpetrators couldn't have known the truck contained Nikes until after they broke in and began ransacking it.”

[-] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

That really changes to tone of the entire thing.

[-] TheLurker@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

Fucking filthy pigs. Shit like that is why they have no trust left amongst the general population.

It's just easy mode bullshit so they don't have to do any real difficult police work.

[-] SamboT@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Idk. The trailer was unmarked and locked. There were a lot of freight vehicles getting broken into, so they parked one and waited for another legit crime to happen.

Just seems smart tbh.

[-] TheLurker@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It just seems like an easy target to me. Anyone with even a passing knowledge of socioeconomics knows that crime, especially crimes of opportunity sky rockets in poor communities.

This is a case of "treating the symptom and not the cause". Which is just easy mode bullshit policing. And another example of police prioritising property over people.

[-] communistcapy 3 points 1 year ago

I think they just want easy arrests. It makes their department look good. Police is just a business in reality.

[-] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Isn't that like actually entrapment and illegal?

https://www.oakbrooklaw.com/illinois-criminal-law-blog/illinois-entrapment-defense-police-provoke-commit-crime#:~:text=Illinois%20Entrapment%20Law&text=The%20public%20official's%20behavior%20must,into%20the%20alleged%20offender's%20mind.

[-] cloaker@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago

No, when a police officer incites it is. When a police officer merely places the truck in front of them but keeps it locked and doesn't say anything to them it's not entrapment. It is still however morally wrong and genuinely some of the most disgusting police conduct.

[-] 520@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

The truck was locked, had no logos, and the cops didn't push them into stealing from it. Thus it isn't entrapment

However, they placed it in an area where they knew people are desperately poor and regularly have to turn to illicit activities to make ends meet. Most truck drivers know this and don't park their shit outside for this reason. To anyone older, this would look like an obvious setup. That's why they targeted kids.

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

"Qualified immunity"

ACAB

[-] halvar@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

It's weird how in some places the police is the one with a criminal's mindset.

[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

Are the kids wrong to steal, even if stealing was made easy for them? Yes.

Does that make this story any less dystopian? No.

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[-] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

I’d really like a link to this article

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[-] punkisundead@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

This post got kinda popular and so probably lots of folks that are not subscribed will see it. Please follow the rules pointed out in the sidebar, especially:

  • do not derail discussions with your concerns about morality or ethics

You can always use the pinned post Why a(nother) shoplifting community to talk about why you think stealing is wrong.

[-] Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

First it is dystopian for others, then those you know, then you.

[-] thantik@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I saw a statement on here rather recently that resonated with me quite a lot: "Dystopian stories are not predictions of the future, they are criticisms of the current."

These are the same people who are like "If you don't believe in god how can you be of good moral character?!" and then pull shit like this.

[-] thantik@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This happened in like 2008 or 2011 if I remember correctly. These dipshits should be fired and barred from ever serving in a position of authority ever again. But they are bullies, so they'll just find a way to lure a kid onto their property and shoot them "in self defense".

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

It happened like six years ago and it’s shitty but the truck was locked and had no way of knowing what’s inside until broken into… it wasn’t filled with logos and shit.

It was still a honeypot, but it wasn’t like “I have things you want in me”

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