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Nail no.1 in the coffin for me was when this Durov guy sent an unsolicited telegram-wide message on election day in my country, claiming French interference in our elections.
This is nail no.2 in the coffin.
Guess I’ll get off my lazy arse and delete my telegram account now
There goes my telegram account. Bye, you won’t be missed
I don't know why people stuck with it. I've used it; I get that a lot of the initial success/hype was:
- It's not owned by Meta
- "Putin hates Durov!"
- "Unlimited" storage (lots of people using it as free cloud storage, which is dumb if you value your files)
But your messages are not E2EE by default (only "Secret Chats", which aren't synced across devices)...Telegram (the organization) could always read your messages. I said this so many times and got called everything under the sun.
"Why would they care about my messages though?" ------> Because $300 Million.
This. The second Premium landed I was out, and it was slipping long before that.
Whelp. Same thought :(
now telegram is going to insert random information about South African White genocide to every conversation. or it will be in every recommended reply at least.
Telegram ASTOUNDS me.
Like, there's been several instances of them outwardly admitting that their security sucks, not to use it for encrypted chats, that they just give logs away to world governments, and yet thousands of crypto bros and bots use telegram to function, EVEN ZLIBRARY, who could just as easily set up and use Matrix, has a Telegram bot for downloading books.
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Wondering how long has this been cooking? A year or so ago musk started attacking signal for no discernible reason and recommending telegram instead.
Telegram are being paid by xAI to use their product? Isn't it supposed to be the other way around?
integrate into it's apps
They're getting paid for training data.
I'm guessing the money flows in this direction because telegram actually has users.
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Having xAI accessing a billion of users conversations? They are going to have the most "educated" LLM. Also isn't xAI getting subsidies from the government? Literalły workers of America are paying to spy, again
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I only use telegram to buy illegal iptv subscriptions. Is there a reason I would ever need grok in there?
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So you’re telling me that Grok is so bad that they have to pay developers to integrate it? How backwards. People are willing to pay for Grok’s competitors.
Or is xAI paying for access to Telegram conversations to train Grok?
This is the reason. Telegram has data and users that can be fed to the AI and they know it. Grok is hungry.
Well it’s gonna learn to post crypto spam ads and swastikas then. Which come to think of it.. might be the point
What's funny is the flipside to it... Telgram is absolutely fucking full of furries so grok's gonna learn a shitload of gay leftist shit too.
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So, a software that is owned by US politician is working together with software that has links to Russian government?
Federal government threatened Telegram and demanded a backdoor a while back, iirc.
You misunderstand. Elon is retired from US politics now, obviously, and will return to being a force of good!
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ew wtf, Telegram has been one of the less shittified ones :c
Honestly, Telegramm always seemed to me a bit shifty since I learnt E2EE for chats was opt-in.
Been saying this for years. Then they introduced Premium to "help fund things" (but they're also taking $300 MILLION from Elon, and giving them access to user data.
So will basic features stop being paywalled now? Or are people going to have to keep paying to stop random people from messaging them?
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First thing i'm doing is opening a channel to run up Grok API calls maliciously
good news! signal has sticker packs
If only any of my friends would have it.. I have a lot of contacts on telegram, and on signal there's like 1. Even my furry friends are not on there
There are some active chats on matrix, but I don't know why on signal
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Big yikes
There doesn’t seem to be any such thing as “good” AI, but there’s definitely a “worst” one, and Telegram chose it. Nice job, assholes.
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Two insane billionaire eugenicists … working together? No way. Birds of like feather stick together.
What is the fediverse chat equivalent?
If you want something more like the fediverse itself, then Matrix. If you want something closer to Telegram out of the box without setup, then Signal or SimpleX.
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