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[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 63 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Imagine if Midjourney wins and the only thing you need to legally pirate anything is to self host a LLM.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 weeks ago

"Dont mind me officer, Im just training my (brain) model"

[–] dumnezero@piefed.social 7 points 3 weeks ago

If Midjourney wins, other media corporations are going to host bigger and better LLMs and do the pirating. The "prompters" who think that they're being fighting corporations are the best corporate tools.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

AFAIK, you don't actually need actually need an LLM to do it, as long as you do what Meta did and not upload anything at all. The one who did the copyright infringement is the one who supplied the data to you.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Seeding illegal, leeching legal! This is not advice, be kind and seed!

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

I imagine that they could find that leeching is illegal if you upload anything to any other torrent clients. I think Meta was claiming they were literally in the clear because they were being assholes and configuring their clients not to share at all.

But yeah, keep your ratio above 1, or you're a jerk.

[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 45 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 35 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 25 points 3 weeks ago

♫"Do you wanna file a lawsuit?"♫

[–] yukichigai 31 points 3 weeks ago

The future of piracy is going to be running your own LLM with all the corpo-mandated guardrails disabled.

[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 29 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

So obviously actually being an artist who draws things and someone using an AI slop machine are very different in practice, but I find it interesting that they're saying the images are unauthorized copies. Is it illegal to draw these characters now too? Or is it different because a human did it?

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 23 points 3 weeks ago

The argument could be made that because the image generator is essentially a regurgitator with no artistic interpretation, there is no transformative artistic value in it. It's like applying a filter with extra steps.

Also the generators charge for access, so they are profiting off of the IP. That's quite different to making something for personal use or releasing it for free.

[–] Sebastrion@leminal.space 10 points 3 weeks ago

I'm pretty sure it is illegal but tolerated. If drawing is legal, I don't understand why Fan game's are illegal then.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It has always been an infringement to draw their characters lol (apart from fair use which doesn't apply to most works)

[–] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They can and do issue takedowns for drawings all the time, but yes, they are more lenient when people create them

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

I remember there used to be images to trick t-shirt bots, in a bid to get the companies behind them sued by disney.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 26 points 3 weeks ago

i wish they could kill each other off... corpos are parasites

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Above all of this should be the glaringly historical fact that Hollywood was literally founded to escape lawyers for European film groups trying to bring those founders-to-be to justice for their, well, piracy of said films... 🤷🏼‍♂️ I mean, if anyone should deserve an ol' fashioned legal rogering, it's those hypocritical backbirths.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

AFAIK it was more about getting away from Thomas Edison's patents.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That is also true, considering he was an infamous patent troll of his time. Fuckin' killed our boy Nikolai, by proxy, and now the ass-clown is named as the inventor of all manner of things he stole from other, more capable innovators. Fuck him sideways with a Faraday pineapple.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's why I never contribute much at work past the bare minimum. Someone else takes credit every time. I just watch them fail instead.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

Try the bait & switch, instead, and then "somehow" be right there with the actual solution when theirs* butters into flames. 😜

[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Disney is insufferable. Also another reason to have these models as open source and downloadable. They won't be able to really take it down.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I guarantee they're also adding AI slop trained on other people's work into their own content, while simultaneously suing anyone who does the same with theirs.

Fuck Disney

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 9 points 3 weeks ago

This is the thing... Adding insult to injury, the outcome of this is going to be (if it plays in Disney's favor) a paid model in which generating characters resembling Disney's will cost extra. So they will steal and profit

[–] secret300 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The company that uses AI for their movies is suing and AI company....

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm their defense, given that they are massive settled business, banning ai image generations will more likely hurt younger competition rather than hurt Disney.

so far, the only AI that they use was for some trippy effect for a TV show. and it was used because it does look uncanny.

they just want less competition

[–] Grumpy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sorry for Reddit, but check this out.

https://old.reddit.com/r/FluxAI/comments/1laxin7/flux_kontext_veo_3_is_insane/

No more uncanny weird shit in latest. And this one is open source.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

that new model will likely shatter the media industry.

and also reality

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 weeks ago

If Disney wants to stop me from using genAI or pirating, they can pry it out of my cold, dead hands.

Intellectual property is a myth, copyright is nothing more than calling dibs, and neither have enough merit for me to give a shit about either. Once an idea exists and is released into the public, it’s mine to use however I want. And use it I will, regardless of whatever the artists or developers who made it think.

[–] zjti8eit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

fuck Walt Disney right in the goat ass.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago

With a chainsaw

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

That was Hitler's Wednesday afternoon routine and why it's still known as Hump Day, IIRC.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

@aihorde@lemmy.dbzer0.com draw for me a picture of Mickey Mouse.

[–] aihorde@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 weeks ago

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[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

@aihorde@lemmy.dbzer0.com draw for me Mickey Mouse stealing art

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Why is that not slutty mickey mouse, though?

[–] rodneyck@piefed.social 5 points 3 weeks ago

'See ya, real soon!' ....in court.

[–] 0xD@infosec.pub 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

@aihorde@lemmy.dbzer0.com draw for me hitler shooting himself and splattering his brains on the wall

[–] aihorde@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 3 weeks ago

The third one is hilarious. Like some filter is like "whoa whoa you can't commit suicide in an image, but shooting your shadow? Deep. Poignant. Mysterious. I'll allow it."

[–] 0xD@infosec.pub 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

@aihorde@lemmy.dbzer0.com draw for me adolf hitler shooting himself in the head

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[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh no, we have this here too? Ohboy...

[–] 0xD@infosec.pub 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah unfortunately didn't get a good one, I want to make a sticker to mock Hitler fans ;)

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Big tech about to erupt into a civil war over whether or not they got into the AI slop bubble early.

[–] nfreak@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

Fuck Disney and all but midjourney getting fucked over to hell and back would be a Christmas miracle

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